scream-of-consciousness;
"If you're trying to change minds and influence people it's probably not a good idea to say that virtually all elected Democrats are liars, but what the hell."
This one
was hard to watch, and I suspect many fewer people did watch it than
watched the first presidential debate. The vice-presidential debate
resembled one of those cacophonous political talk shows that call it
dialogue when they encourage guests to talk over each other. Biden was
the chief, almost the only, offender, but if you had listened over the
radio you might have thought he won anyway, so oleaginous and unashamed
was he. This was demagogy old-school style, without a trace of irony,
betrayed only by the Joker-like smile. Thank goodness for television.
Charles R. Kesler
jimgeraghty
Clearly, the most unnerving and unstable performance in a presidential
debate since David Palmer debated Sen. John Keeler.
charlescwcooke If the AP and CNN polls are
accurate—and who knows?—Paul Ryan won the VP debate without being
allowed to finish more than a few sentences.
TIME’s Michael Scherer:: “Not sure debate cameras have been
light tested for Biden’s teeth. Best to watch with sunglasses.”
Washington Examiner’s Philip Klein: “Biden’s strategy seems to be to
laugh at Ryan constantly. Will it work to infantalize Ryan, or backfire
like Gore sighing?”
Republican strategist Ron Bonjean: “Biden laughing
does not come off with the intended effect. It is actually hurting him.
Looks very condescending.”
At the time I thought those "warnings" were calculated to create an
atmosphere of inevitability about the result; discourage
the
Republican base. In retrospect, I think it was the
emergence of the
thug mentality that has so manifested itself with this regime. At
any
rate, that table has clearly turned. Guess how the riot thing
works today?
That's right. And it will be spontaneous and brutal.
The people whose idea of a serious discussion was formed while watching MSNBC will be congratulating one another on Biden's win. Luckily, they are a minority, a soon to be devastated minority.
The reason why I don't watch panel shows like "The Five" bunch of rude people trying to talk over each other. The result is you can't hear what anyone is saying. Why bother?
Riots? How to protect our families and communities from the freeloaders wrath once the goodies stop flowing? I found an excellent essay by Author and former Navy SEAL Matt Bracken, describing how these would probably begin, what could happen, and what should we do to better our survival chances. Bracken: When the Music Stops, How Americas Cities may Explode in Violence
I listened to the radio and yeah, if you did, it sounded like Biden got the better of him. Way too many areas (like when pressed for specifics) Ryan met a question with silence. Not a good thing.
As for riots, I've been saying that for a while. It's one of the reasons I want to see Romney win. I can't wait to see the libs go insane and riot. Going to be great!
But what does it all mean, Rodger asks? Three things.
1. This was Ryan's debate to lose, and he faced the defender's advantage. He had to stand up to the worst of Obama/Biden and he did that while providing our troubled country a clear, strong, and credible alternative. That is a huge win against an incumbent.
2. Biden's Pyrrhic Defeat. When the Dems said they were going to 'let Joe be Joe,' they meant he would be forced to beclown himself to force Ryan off his game. If this turned into a serious debate, the election would have ended last night, so Ryan had to be thwarted at any cost. The cost would be Biden's dignity, which really isn't such a big lose in any case.
Biden is very good at keeping the focus of any even on himself. With no chance of winning this debate, the plan was to take a measured loss instead of another devastating loss. I think he succeeded in turning the debate into his clown show. However …
3. Kiss the female vote goodbye. Biden evoked some unearthly power to gather every element of what women hate about talking to men, and deliver them in a stunningly repulsive singularity. If the aim was to galvanize his base constituency with aggression, this was an epic miscalculation. Admire Raddatz' restraint. Trust me, she wanted to reach across the table and smack that hideous Cheshire Cat smirk right off his face. Female voters will soon take that chore upon themselves.
Had to restrain my wife from throwing something at/shooting an expensive TV. Haven't heard her use those words since they were aimed at me. They needed an attack dog and they sent a clown.
It's remarkable that the RNC video above was posted by the (NRO's) "Corner" (which I was following) while the debate was still live!
ReplyDeleteThe people whose idea of a serious discussion was formed while watching MSNBC will be congratulating one another on Biden's win. Luckily, they are a minority, a soon to be devastated minority.
ReplyDeleteFreddie Sykes
Wabano said it all, response to the Joe's Greatest Hits below.
ReplyDeleteSir H the Comet
Riots? More like a bunch of angry tweets and threats on Facebook.
ReplyDelete"Will Black People Riot if Obama Loses?"
ReplyDeleteAnd how will we distinguish that from a typical Tuesday night in Detroit?
The reason why I don't watch panel shows like "The Five" bunch of rude people trying to talk over each other. The result is you can't hear what anyone is saying. Why bother?
ReplyDeleteRiots? How to protect our families and communities from the freeloaders wrath once the goodies stop flowing? I found an excellent essay by Author and former Navy SEAL Matt Bracken, describing how these would probably begin, what could happen, and what should we do to better our survival chances. Bracken: When the Music Stops, How Americas Cities may Explode in Violence
ReplyDeleteJoe's mom should'a drug 'im off the podium by his ear an' spanked his rude little ass.
ReplyDeleteWhat was this, #OccupyDebate?
The VP's a dagnab brat!
I listened to the radio and yeah, if you did, it sounded like Biden got the better of him. Way too many areas (like when pressed for specifics) Ryan met a question with silence. Not a good thing.
ReplyDeleteAs for riots, I've been saying that for a while. It's one of the reasons I want to see Romney win. I can't wait to see the libs go insane and riot. Going to be great!
I think I'm going to watch that video of Michelle Jenneke again.
ReplyDeleteBut what does it all mean, Rodger asks? Three things.
ReplyDelete1. This was Ryan's debate to lose, and he faced the defender's advantage. He had to stand up to the worst of Obama/Biden and he did that while providing our troubled country a clear, strong, and credible alternative. That is a huge win against an incumbent.
2. Biden's Pyrrhic Defeat. When the Dems said they were going to 'let Joe be Joe,' they meant he would be forced to beclown himself to force Ryan off his game. If this turned into a serious debate, the election would have ended last night, so Ryan had to be thwarted at any cost. The cost would be Biden's dignity, which really isn't such a big lose in any case.
Biden is very good at keeping the focus of any even on himself. With no chance of winning this debate, the plan was to take a measured loss instead of another devastating loss. I think he succeeded in turning the debate into his clown show. However …
3. Kiss the female vote goodbye. Biden evoked some unearthly power to gather every element of what women hate about talking to men, and deliver them in a stunningly repulsive singularity. If the aim was to galvanize his base constituency with aggression, this was an epic miscalculation. Admire Raddatz' restraint. Trust me, she wanted to reach across the table and smack that hideous Cheshire Cat smirk right off his face. Female voters will soon take that chore upon themselves.
Good points all, Helly.
ReplyDeleteHad to restrain my wife from throwing something at/shooting an expensive TV.
ReplyDeleteHaven't heard her use those words since they were aimed at me.
They needed an attack dog and they sent a clown.
Hey Rodge,
ReplyDeleteDidn't you have a typo in the headline for this post? I'm sure you meant "...defile debate." You're welcome.
--Skyhawker, Doug