Thursday, April 02, 2009

Are we being scripted?

Can we talk?


Remember how excited many of us were over New Hampshire's resolution affirming States’ rights based on Jeffersonian principles?  I loved that approach because it was defacto secession, with the onus placed  on the federal gummint for failure to adhere to the constitution.  Alas, a house majority voted to  "Die" rather than "Live Free!"  Anyway, I found the same excitment yesterday, April 1st.  The multitudes, I among them, sprung into full bloom of  manhood over this FreeRepublic post, TEXAS ORDINANCE OF SECESSION(Texas is going for it!) 

Sooo...what does one have to do to become a citizen of Republic of Texas?

Just curious.

5 posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:41:17 PM by madison10


To: madison10; xzins
Sooo...what does one have to do to become a citizen of Republic of Texas?I was born there. So I can be president.
16 posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:46:13 PM by P-Marlowe

I always felt Texas would be the ideal anchor for a United States reformation movement.  First, they are the only state that was once a country, which imputes to them, in my mind, standing the others lack.  Second, it's big.  Several years ago, in response to forerunners of todays Global-warmist freaks, the Population Bomb-ists, I read a book (?) that demonstrated that the entire Earth population could live in Texas, with  living space more generous than Hong Kong. That's important, because a whole lotta people would be moving there.  Third, Texas offers port facilities.  Fourth, With all it's military bases, it's likely that the new Texas nation would possess nuclear weaponry, which by itself would end any Lincolnesqe response by the Obama jingoists, or others with misplaced  patriotism.

Here was an intriguing comment ...

Well, there’s that Nubian in the fuel supply known as Texas vs White to get around first.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=74&invol=700

To bumper-sticker it, it says that no state has the right to secede once becoming part of the United States.


34 posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:59:16 PM by decal (Too many people mistake "tolerance" for "approval.")

I read much of it, until I thought of something better to do, like take a leak.  STATE OF TEXAS v. WHITE, 74 U.S. 700 (1868)  concerns  unclaimed United States Texan indemnity bonds, issued January 1, 1851, payable in fourteen years, of the denomination of $1000 each, and coupons attached thereto to the amount of $ 1287.50, amounting in the aggregate, bonds and coupons, to the sum of $156, 287.50.  Said bonds had been used to pay a company for war materials, and evidently the long legal hassle conveys to the United States the right to bar secession, something that did not exist in 1861.

Whether it does, or does not it seems to me a moot point. As Lincoln proved when he used force of arms to nudge the Confederate States back into the Union, "might makes right." The same holds today. Any state seceding must anticipate a war against such of the United States military that chooses to fight against Freedom, which might just consist entirely of Obama's Brown Shirts.  Interesting, and Invigorating thought.


Final thought: The more I think about what's happening, the more I tend to believe that our discontent has been orchestrated.

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'll scout out locations while on my recon trip. Full report later Boss,

TFV

closed said...

Texas was the only state that had a treaty right to secede during the ACW.


The TX secession ordinances are a dead letter since the treaty that enables them was completely abrogated.

Texas was conquered and annexed at the close of the ACW ... so that treaty was abrogated in the traditional manner ... by conquest.

Not saying whether or not it was right ... but it did happen. Conquered republics don't get to enforce treaties.

Grumpyunk said...

I enjoyed my time in Texas while in the military.
I'd pack my shit and go there in a heartbeat if this took off.
Like Daniel Boone said - "You gentlemen can go to hell. I'm going to Texas."

Spunky Texan said...

Amen to Daniel Boone.

I miss Texas

Anonymous said...

Over two hundred years since the creation of the United States Constitution and less than 100 days to destroy it.
c.umulus n.imbusi

Anonymous said...

Don't get exited, completely symbolic gesture. Oklahoma passed this last year and I don't see a lot of seceeding going on. When I see the state police shut down an IRS office then I'll pay some attention. BTW, Texas is just barely a red state anymore. All of California moved there so it's destined to become dry-Portland.

Plowboy

Cowboy Blob said...

IIRC, the Texas Constitution does have the provision for Texas splitting into five separate States... think on how THAT would change the balance of power in the Senate!

AnnoyedOne said...

Texas has another advantage. Not only does it have the death penalty but it actually uses it.

http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/deathrow.htm

Anonymous said...

I :
was born there
live less than 3 hours from the border
always cheer for the Longhorns over the Gooners
intend to use my gun if necessary and
have family to live with there.
Let's roll!
~merrily

Anonymous said...

Not sure it was great Uncle Daniel that said that, maybe Tennesseean David Crockett. But going to Texas sounds good to me. - Vice Sgt Boone.

closed said...

Cowboy Blob: It may be in the TX constitution, but it ain't in the US Constitution.

Congress has the power to elevate territories to Statehood, or split states ( cf West Virginia ). Not the TX legislature.

Anonymous said...

You are correct VSB. Crockett had just lost his seat in Congress, and his reply as he rode off to the Alamo was, "The people of Tennesee may go to hell. I am going to Texas."

Grumpyunk said...

My apologies for getting the 2 mixed up. I'm getting old. Have pity.

Anonymous said...

Texas was not the only state that was once a country. Hawaii was a sovereign nation. The US even sent an ambassador there before they said, 'Screw it, just annex the bastids.' They had a king and queen and you can still visit the royal palace. The original Hawaiians seem to be the only ones who remember this fact so Texas remains the logical place from which to bitch-slap all those morons in DC. If only...
GrinfilledCelt

cmblake6 said...

But there is that 10th Amendment thing. If enough states have enough of the bullsh*t, and declare sovereignty under the Constitution, the fed.gov can be disbanded and reformed. By the Constitution. Tx is only ten minutes east of me.

Anonymous said...

I'm in Virginia where increasingly people are getting infuriated by the incursions on our rights and liberties perpetrated by the Big Goof up north in The District - which is fancying itself as a state. Secession sounds like a good idea to us here. We have Quantico and all those lovely Marines - oooRAH!

Rodger the Real King of France said...

We have Quantico and all those lovely Marines - oooRAH!

Yes, and they obey the C-I-C.

closed said...

cmblake6: Lincoln too the 10th amendment out and shot it dead.

Since then, Statehood is like the Hotel California. And the federal gov just won't die, no mater how much we stab it with our steely knives ...

cmblake6 said...

Uhm, y'all? The Constitution is what the military is sworn to protect. NOT the ruling junta. It can be done. Legally. Sounds to me like there are some dedicated to being bummed out people here just about now.
All that needs to happen is enough people get sufficiently irritated to take the peaceful legal actions.
There are a whole bunch of people that are getting fed up enough to not want to wait for that. I say, let us do everything in our power to do this nicely. Do not rush into 1776 v2.0. Time enough for that if the gentle way doesn't work. Am I advocating violent overthrow of the communist infiltrators to our government? No. Not unless the law is so blatantly violated, and the legal system is so hamstrung as to not do their duty to this nation and its founding concept.
Additionally, this is a sovereign nation. The UN is not our ruler, not our lawgiver. Our laws are what keeps this a sovereign nation, not anywhere else's. This NWO crap has got to stop. A revolution would weaken us against invasion until we recovered from it.
We have the intel, the tactics, and the equipment to have it done in 30 minutes or less, if the .mil wakes up to their sworn duty.

Anonymous said...

Davy Crockett said..."you can all go to hell, I am going to Texas". I doubt that Daniel Boone ever went to Texas.

If a succession movement ever starts, I would not be surprised that it would start with us.

God Bless Texas!

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