Sunday, September 18, 2011

Repudiation ...

Repudiation ... OMFG

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Most people, unfortunately, apply the same analysis to public debt as they do to private. If sanctity of contracts should rule in the world of private debt, shouldn't they be equally as sacrosanct in public debt? Shouldn't public debt be governed by the same principles as private? The answer is no, even though such an answer may shock the sensibilities of most people.


 One of yesterday's links to people I link-to has resulted in a starburst of energetic discovery, and to some extent repudiation and validation of some of my own positions. This link.
  • American Digest  Do Your Duty! You Have the Responsibility as an American to Make Obama Successful.
Which also contained this post.

Put Debt Repudiation On the Table

I propose, then, a seemingly drastic
but actually far less destructive way of paying off the public debt at a single blow: out-right debt repudiation. Consider this question: why should the poor, battered citizens of Russia or Poland or the other ex-Communist countries be bound by the debts contracted by their former Communist masters? ... Similarly, we the living did not contract for either the past or the present debts incurred by the politicians and bureaucrats in Washington. -- Repudiating the National Debt - Murray N. Rothbard - Mises Daily

Posted by Vanderleun at 8:36 PM | Your Say (1)





In the old days (1970s), when perhaps the nation's only broadly distributed conservative opinion came via the Wall Street Journal's Editorial pages, every Thursday contained what I called the " The Thursday Car-loon" column.  When I began reading it that column was written by Alexander Cockburn ( later by Al Hunt, who was as left-wing as Cockburn, but without the intelligence).  This is by way of saying that I think Cockburn is a first class A-hole.  Had I simply watched the video then, I would have left happy with the notion that Vanderleun was presenting an easy  target for disdain .  Advocating the repudiation of credit card debt is a distinctly Commie thing to do. A gentleman is honor bound to his debts, and must go to his grave having done everything possible to pay them.  Then, I clicked the link Repudiating the National Debt - Murray N. Rothbard - Mises Daily.

To the extent that my leathery brain cells can expand to accept new and unwelcome formulations, they did. Bear in mind that I am quoting from the Ludwig von Mises Institute web page.  
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In the spring of 1981, conservative Republicans in the House of Representatives cried. They cried because, in the first flush of the Reagan Revolution that was supposed to bring drastic cuts in taxes and government spending, as well as a balanced budget, they were being asked by the White House and their own leadership to vote for an increase in the statutory limit on the federal public debt, which was then scraping the legal ceiling of one trillion dollars. They cried because all of their lives they had voted against an increase in public debt, and now they were being asked, by their own party and their own movement, to violate their lifelong principles. The White House and its leadership assured them that this breach in principle would be their last: that it was necessary for one last increase in the debt limit to give President Reagan a chance to bring about a balanced budget and to begin to reduce the debt. Many of these Republicans tearfully announced that they were taking this fateful step because they deeply trusted their President, who would not let them down.

Famous last words.

Any melding of public debt into a private transaction must rest on the common but absurd notion that taxation is really "voluntary," and that whenever the government does anything, "we" are willingly doing it. This convenient myth was wittily and trenchantly disposed of by the great economist Joseph Schumpeter: "The theory which construes taxes on the analogy of club dues or of the purchases of, say, a doctor only proves how far removed this part of the social sciences is from scientific habits of mind." Morality and economic utility generally go hand in hand. Contrary to Alexander Hamilton, who spoke for a small but powerful clique of New York and Philadelphia public creditors, the national debt is not a "national blessing." T
I have to get ready for the Redskin game, here's the rest of it.  I'll get back to this.  I think.   For the record.  I want to talk about what Clint Eastwood said too.



8 comments:

Kristophr said...

Which is why they wont do it. Repudiation causes the free money tap to be shut off.

No more borrowing to give billions to your cronies.

Anonymous said...

After reading the solemn headlines that the Congressional Super Committee “has to find $1.5 trillion in cuts over the next ten years,” I want to puke. If the headline said ten times that amount over ten years, or $1.5 trillion for next year’s budget, they’d be in the ballpark. How long can we sit by and be insulted by this sophomoric utter bullshit?

It may come to debt repudiation via a tax revolt. When ~50% of taxpayers actually pay taxes, while the other 50% pay no taxes and receive cash from the government, while the government prints money to pay the debt incurred giving out the goodies and thereby decreases the value of the responsible 50%'s savings through inflation, then it would make sense for the responsible 50% to tell the government "Go to hell, we didn't authorize this debt." Only a measure that drastic might be a sufficient wakeup call to the DC thieves that we've had more than enough.

If a just few thousand refuse to pay, they’ll be rounded up one by one and punished by the DC thieves, but if 70 million taxpayers revised their W-4’s to zero out withholding and refused to file a tax return, it might get somebody’s attention.
Next move? Actual taxpayer’s strike? Open revolt?
Lt. Col. Gen. Tailgunner dick

Kristophr said...

Zero withholding won't work. They will just order companies to withhold anyway.

A general strike caused by money becoming worthless might.

They would have to re-monitize by adopting some other currency ... one they don't control.

wmprof said...

"They would have to re-monitize by adopting some other currency ... one they don't control."

Or one they DO control Kirstopher. THAT is what I have been anticipating all along.

Rodger the Real King of France said...

Bloomberg fears there will be riots if unemployment worsens. I guess that's why he makes the big bucks.

Kristophr said...

wmprof: Only a complete sucker would buy a bond payable in a currency that was under the control of someone who had just demonetized one already.

Anonymous said...

When I retired I put most of my savings into precious metals, which have more than doubled in the last year. When the govt is inflating the currency, all you can do is find something solid to put your money into,preferably something you can take to another state, if yours decides to increase taxes.

All I really wanted was to preserve my wealth, turns out to have been one of my best investments. Other than starting a business.

--Sapo Mal

TheOldMan said...

Inflation is debt repudiation.

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