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            Monday, September 01, 2014


Vanderbilt University has decided student groups on campus cannot determine their own leadership. Consequently, a muslim can run the Christian group, a global warming skeptic can run the Earth First group, a Republican can run the College Democrats, etc. You get the idea.

The rule came in part because, as you will not be surprised to learn, a Christian fraternity “had expelled several students for violating their behavior policy. One student said he was ousted
You will be made to care. You’ll be made to care about gay marriage. You’ll be made to care about killing kids. You’ll be made to care about the influence of a secular culture on your children as they grow. You’ll be made to care about a host of issues.
because he is gay.” Tish Harrison Warren wrote about this at Christianity Today. Her Christian group allowed anyone to be a member, “but it asks key student leaders—the executive council and small group leaders—to affirm its doctrinal statement, which outlines broad Christian orthodoxy and does not mention sexual conduct specifically. But the university saw belief statements themselves as suspect.”

The first bit of Tish Harrison Warren’s column is really the most relevant part for my purposes here.

I thought I was an acceptable kind of evangelical. I’m not a fundamentalist. My friends and I enjoy art, alcohol, and cultural engagement. We avoid spiritual clichés and buzzwords. We value authenticity, study, racial reconciliation, and social and environmental justice.

A lot of Christians have long thought they could sit on the sidelines. Only the icky evangelicals they don’t much care for and the creepily committed Catholics would have to deal with these issues and the people who hate those deeply committed to their faith. They, on the other hand, could sit on the sidelines, roll their eyes, and tell everyone that they didn’t think it was that big a deal. They were, after all, on birth control or watching whatever trendy HBO series is on or having a cocktail or perfectly willing to bake a cake for a gay wedding.
Nonetheless, the secularists at Vanderbilt kicked her Christian group off campus “for being the wrong kind of Christians.”

My friend Matthew Lee Anderson has some thoughts on it. In part he writes, “if we do not grasp the joy of the martyrs, we do not understand them at all.” I tweeted out Matt’s post yesterday, but was reminded of it again today by my friend Nick. He sent me Rod Dreher’s piece on the whole thing.

Folks, this is precisely why I started the saying “You will be made to care.” It all stemmed from a diarist here at RedState who took the position that gay marriage did not affect him, he did not care about it, and he would never care about. But, of course, you will be made to care. It is a larger issue than just gay marriage and many comfortably naive, living at the margins of faith, Christians, think they have a comfortable path through life in the United States.

Put bluntly: if you do have a comfortable path through life with no fears at all of persecution, you probably are not a Christian. Islam may be about submission, but Christianity is about suffering.1 The suffering may not be major. It may be an accumulation of small sleights over time. It may be the loss of a friend or just the expulsion of your Christian group from your private school. But Christianity is a religion of suffering and persecution.

 You may think you can sit on the sidelines. You may think you can opt-out of the culture war. You may think you can hide behind your trendy naked Leena Dunham t-shirt while you sip trendy drinks talking about trendy shows and writing columns demanding Christians be forced by the state to bake cakes, provide flowers and farms, and offer up photographs of gay weddings. But not only will you one day be called to account to your God for how you advanced his kingdom, but on this Earth you will be made to care. That does not mean you have license to be bitter or angry or hateful. You should love others and help others. Just do not expect anything in return. [Full Article]

This blog is, and has been for 12 years, about whatever I'm into at the moment.  Politics mostly.  I've eschewed discussing religion except to ponder things like, "who do atheist turn to ... " sort of thing.   Now, I have been made to look deeper into the state or our culture, and the reasons why ... why all of it?   I won't evangelize, but it has become impossible for me to ignore.  Metzger summarized nicely with  "I'm not a practicing Christian, but ... as a strong believer in custom and tradition and ritual as the glue that keeps a culture intact .."  With the loss of those guardrails came this, today. Ten million words will not beging to summraize.  But, you know; you feel. War is declared against the Judeo-Christain ethic. Monsters have been embraced.

Last week the ubiquitous "Anonymous" challenged a Tailgunner Dick comment with,   "But if you want to prove Mr. Dawkins is wrong it's necessary to prove that God does exist (which no-one has managed to do to date).

I responded, but quicky deleted; it was the stuff of a range war.  On reflection though, my answer is that I am proven that God exists.  My suggestion to Anonymous would be to read ( to make it easier) Saint Thomas Aquinas's  Shorter Summa (or the even the more concise pony), and we can take it from there. But it's a sterile challenge,  for the same reason it's impossible to discuss, say, the 984 outrages against our rule of law perpetrated by this Liberal/Obama government:  Obamunists have their own media, their own history, their own wise men, and most importantly, their own statist religion and pope. 

By the by, if Anonymous, or anyone else,  would like to know why I know God exists, I will be happy to answer  via e-mail,  for whatever that's worth.  I am of average intellect, and no match for the godless philosophers that  Dawkin's camp will utilize,like, say, Friedrich Nietzsche.


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"The MSM Rule of Inverse Electoral Correlation:
The closer the presidential race gets, the louder the MSM declares that it’s over. And all this comes even as Clinton has had a terrible week—arguably her worst week ever, as the billowing smoke of financial scandal clouds herself and her family."

The ultimate arrogance is to believe the is no higher power.
Only person more dogmatic than a country, Baptist preacher is an atheist. Ones experience with the spiritual side of a person is enough. I tend to be still and let those that dont understand squawk on and enjoy the sound of their own hollowness.
It would all be philosophical, if their fear hadn't led them to the attempt to destroy those that tolerate and prosper.

They'll have hell to pay if the Christians finally just say: "I've had enough" and react to the persecution with violence. They're resourceful, gather as family and will be an opponent that strikes fear in the heart of their enemies.

The world will be a better place if they just leave them alone.
Nice Jess. Had a guy tell me once that when Christ returns He will be looking for a group of angry men. Fact is Christians are getting a bit weary of the bullying but thats what we do.
"Only person more dogmatic than a country, Baptist preacher..."

Hey! I resemble that remark. It's a good thing too or I'd have a hundred notches on my sixteen gun right now.

i My husband and I love the idea of the university, a place of libraries and lawns, a space set aside to grapple with the most vital questions of truth,...

STOPPIT. Champaign brunch is not the new persecution. Today, throngs of Christians are being crucified and beheaded and exiled into barren hills. Yet these pampered retards think they are suffering for their faith?!? Really Rodge? Can you tell us how many bullets the Wedding Cake Crusaders have taken in the back for the love of Christ?

i Only person more dogmatic ...

Have to agree, Tom. Though preachers may be strident on occasion, you just can't get an atheist to shut up about religion.
God has revealed Himself in my life at every juncture my entire lifetime.

Atheists and agnostics, to me, are lost.

"you just can't get an atheist to shut up about religion."

I would qualify that with "movement atheists," then yes Helly. They are nihilistic evangelists.
When SCIENCE tells me the full and complete value of pi . . . .
I will acknowledge the value.

Till then, anything science can state, but not explain opens a door
thru which all the unworthy are reluctant to enter.
For those who believe in God no explanation is necessary. For those who do not believe, none is possible. ― St. Thomas Aquinas
How long before we start hearing about our leftist government fighting discrimination due to "Christian Privilege"?

Insofar as I am concerned, a man may believe any damfool thing he is of a mind to. So long as he does not come after me with force or coercion to make me [or others] do anything about his beliefs, I will stand for his right to believe as he wishes.

That, to me, is Civilized Behavior; admitting that none of us knows the Ultimate Answers but each seeks them in his own way, in his own time.

The journeys of others are none of my business, unless we both choose to discuss them.

But I suspect that those who are preoccupied with the journeys of others are neglecting their own.

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