Monday, October 27, 2008

RE: Polls

"down to Colorado, New Hampshire and the Republican leaning district in Maine"


  Anecdotal, but smacks of more truth than anything the alphabets are dishing out.
I was having dinner a night ago with a friend of mine who is a statistician for a well-regarded private polling company. They do some work for Republicans in California, but most of the work they do is for Democrats or Democrat-leaning operations (Unions, etc.). Anyway, her shop was retained to do a few Presidential polls for targetted states on behalf of a union so the union could decide where to spend their ad dollars for the last week. They did Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada and Missouri. After mocking the hell out of the voter id spreads used by Rassmussen, Zogby, etc. (and this is coming from a committed Dem who will be voting for Barry O) she said the results of their polling lead her to believe that McCain will definitely win FL, OH, NC, MO and NV. She says Obama definitely wins New Mexico. She said that Colorado and New Hampshire were absolute dead heats. She said she thinks there is a 55% chance Obama holds on in Pennsylvania and a 75% chance McCain wins Virginia. She absolutely laughed at the public polls showing Obama leading Virginia–and pointed out that all of those polls rely on Dem turnout being +4 and as much as +7, when in 2006, Republicans actually had the advantage by +3. She also pointed out that the numbers for Obama in SWVA look absolutely awful and that McCain is running 10 points better then Allen did in NoVa.

Anyway, her companies conclusion is that the election will come down to Colorado, New Hampshire and the Republican leaning district in Maine, which in her opinion might very well decide the Presidency (apparently the district in Nebraska that Obama thought he might be able to get is now off the table). She said she has very little doubt that the public polling is part of a “concerted voter suppression effort” by the MSM. She said IBD/TIPP was the only outfit doing public polling that was “worth a bucket of warm piss”. [Virginia Virtucon]

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm really hoping that the current polls are way off and that McCain-Palin will pull off a 57 state landslide.

Lets look at what we know so far

1. the media isn't even hiding their bias any more

2. Polls can be easily skewed. It's not hard to do

3. The possibility that polls that are favorable to McCain are hitting the trashcan.

So, let's hope and pray that McCain wins the EC by a respectable margin.

bullseye.

Anonymous said...

One thing I have wondered when I look at all of these polls is how are they measuring people like me - who won't answer the phone if I don't recognize the number and won't be polled if by chance they do get me on the phone?

Maybe I'm grasping at straws but I just have to feel that the people voting for McCain are the ones with jobs and other obligations so they don't have time to mess with biased polls.

TFV

Anonymous said...

TFV;

Look at bumper stickers. The way McCain supporters are being treated by rabid leftists, it takes a big pair of brass ones to put a McCain-Palin bumper sticker on a nice car.

So figure that every car out there you see without a bumper sticker on it is a McCain-Palin supporter.

Feel better now?

No? Feature this. It looks like it might rain next Tuesday -- at least here in Ohio. That suppresses Democrat turnout.

M

Anonymous said...

Mark,
That's a good point about the bumper stickers.

I will tell you one thing that scares me - I was at a tailgating party on Saturday and except for my husband and possibly one other person - I was the only McCain supporter there. I had never seen the passion for The One upclose like it was on display there. These people were fanatical - almost as if they were drugged or brainwashed.

I even saw a mother of a toddler trying to teach her daughter to say 'O-Ba-ma' - similar to the way sane people try to teach their kids to say 'Mama' or 'Daddy'. It was chilling.

And these people vote.
TFV

Anonymous said...

RE the previous poster.. "These people were fanatical - almost as if they were drugged or brainwashed. "

There are stories that Obama is using the techniques of Milton Erickson for mass hypnosis. There is a 67 page PDF. Prior to reading that, my wife was getting really annoyed every time obama was on tv "What's the garbage with his hands, He's not saying a dang thing"... Well the erickson hypothesis could explain a lot of what we are seeing.

Before you dismiss it out of hand, I was in a room during high school where a priest used similar techniques to put about 90% of the room in a hypnotic trance. He was a registered hypnotist and told us what he was going to do. THink about what you are seeing with some of the obamites.. Mindless "he's for change" What kind of change? "Well he's for change we need" What exactly will he be changing "You don't like him because he's black" Tell me what exactly he's going to do "YOU ARE A RACIST"

Probably some percentage of the people supporting obama are mesmerized.

Google Milton Erickson Obama for more info and the 67 page pdf...

bullseye

Anonymous said...

I live in SW Va /Tenn line area. McCain 4 to 1 in this area, long time blue dog Dems here say no way they can vote for " the one". So this story holds water with me. I say when that curtain closes their will be lots of blue dog Dems from the south, from the heartland, the ones that cling to their religion and guns(yes I think that statement loses him 3% on election day in Penn.) THAT CAN'T PULL THAT LEVER FOR THE CHOSEN ONE.

Spanky

Anonymous said...

The Annoyed White Male take on this

Anonymous said...

Here is the problem that the media is now faced with. They have been cooking the books for months in what I can only surmise is an attempt to demoralize conservatives. So at some point they will need to bring their numbers closer to reality to save their own credibility or continue to toe the line and ultimately face the wrath of the New Socialist Party after the election. "Comrades, your poll results were wrong. The Central Committee and Chairman Soros are not pleased. Comrade Ayers will now pronounce sentence."

yat

Rodger the Real King of France said...

What they've done has huge social implications either way.

We know that some of the names on the Wall are there because of Jane Fonda, but it's impossible to come up with a number.

If Obama loses I suspect people will die, because his supporters have been led to believe that only racists could vote against him. Here, we can get hard numbers.

Every injury, or loss of life, in a resultant "Obama loses" riot can be accurately divined. Number of casualties ÷ number of journalists = share of liability.

Even worse, if Obama wins the death count, worldwide, could be historical. Same formula.

Anonymous said...

If you're not familiar with the brilliant British series "Yes Minister" you're in for a treat. But the message in this clip is truly relevant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yhN1IDLQjo

"Opinion polls are not designed to measure public opinion, they're designed to shape it." Peter Hitchens

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