Sunday, November 16, 2008

Fraud Everywhere

Schemers
Product Rebates

I have an FBI friend who worked on a joint crime task force in Russia.  He told me that, while he found his Russky counterparts to be agreeable, competent people,  he hadn't met single honest Russian. Not one. He blamed 70 years of socialism for teaching them to survive their gummint by any means. I see that attitude beginning to prevail here.  In that light, this.
Your Mail in Rebate May Be In Jeopardy

If you use mail in rebates for virtually any product in North America, you will want to read up on this and start making sure your money is safe.
Directed at manufacturers, this warning ultimately impacts you.  Say you buy a computer from Best Buy, basing your purchasing decision on a promised $200 MFG Rebate.
We have been longstanding supporters of mail in rebates (MIR) in our industry and for the most part if you properly managed your personal rebate process, MIRs have been a fairly safe bet. All of that is about to change. Continental Promotions Group headquartered in Canada is one of the rebate industry’s largest and oldest players and has huge ties to computer hardware rebates. CPG is putting the screw to its customers to “repay” rebates that have already been funded. Hardly what we would call “Fulfilling the Promise of the Brand” as it is stated on its home page.
Are you with me?  So far it looks like a simple case of corporate embezzlement. But, wait.

Here is a simple overview of how a rebate with CPG works. Company X puts a rebate on its product, let’s say for $20. Company X expects to pay out 5000 of these rebates to consumers. Company X would then put the $100,000 needed to cover that rebate into CPG’s bank accounts. CPG basically escrows the money for consumers. CPG is trusted with this money in order to make sure the consumer is “safe.”

We have it from good sources currently that CPG owes consumers somewhere in the neighborhood of $9M to $12M worth of rebates. The problem here is that CPG currently only has about $3M in cash to cover that $9M-$12M in rebates owed to the consumer. Where that money has gone to is anyone’s guess and we will leave speculation up the law enforcement authorities and the courts.

Currently CPG is contacting its customers telling them that they will need to yet again deposit money into CPG accounts in order for CPG to have the cash to cover rebate checks to consumers. This is money that companies have already paid CPG previously. CPG is telling its customers that if they do not pony up AGAIN, consumer rebate check payments are in jeopardy. In our example above, CPG is not sure where the $100,000 is that Company X paid them, but we are sure that they want another $100,000 or CPG will start bouncing consumers’ MIR checks.

So, we have a company evidently caught red-handed in a massive fraud.  Is their response to fire corporate officers, and open the books to investigators?  No.  Their response is taken directly from the script congress is using in the sub prime meltdown.  That is, brazenly demand from their already defrauded constituency more   cash to cover the embezzlement, or customers won't get entitlements.

It's the commie way. It's what gummints do.

H/T Marc Miller

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Yes, they have a one-word term for black market, "naleva", literally on the left; i.e. taking with the left hand. No doubt we'll have our own word. We are after all a nation of bootleggers at heart. Fuck Elliot Ness.

Casca

Anonymous said...

I have a few Cuban friends that escaped from Cuba. They are so used to cheating the system they don't know any other way.

Anonymous said...

I call for an immediate 50 billion dollar bailout of the rebate industry, even if it is in Canada.

Signed,
your congressman

Anonymous said...

I do not use rebates, way too much hassle. They know some percentage of buyers won't bother or won't file correctly and they get to keep the money. That money is in their bank for weeks or months, not yours. It also puts my info in one more database. If they want to discount something, just friggin' do it. Think about it: we're supposed to get excited about overpaying for something and then applying and waiting to get the excess back. AWM don't play that. Cash 'n' carry only.

Our whole house and most of the people I know have stopped using gift cards, too. That's money you're putting into somebody else's bank bank account, and they like to impose fees, time limits for using them, etc. If the compnay goes under, they'll take your money with them. I think Walmart and some others have declared they won't do that kind of stuff anymore, but it's too late.

AWM

Anonymous said...

One other thing - the $100,000 that was paid to CPG is based on an estimate of how many people will claim the rebate. Obviously not everyone will and some will simply mess up by filing to late, filling in the form incorrectly and so forth.

As times get tough more people will claim so it's quite possible the $100,000 should really be $150,000 or $200,000. If CPG is essentially acting as a pass through in order to minimize the paperwork they have every right to go back to the original client and ask for the additional funds.

AnnoyedOne said...

I've been doing the rebate thing (only in America!) since I came here 13 years ago. Have always got my money. The trick is to follow their instructions to the letter and call/email/hassle them if you don't get the check by the due date.

Anonymous said...

I'm with annoyed-I don't roll that way, if you want to discount the thing, discount it at the POS.

With a possible cap and trade, higher sales taxes, higher income taxes...etc, we are going to become a nation of tax cheats. Right now, several of my clients, buy and sell quite a bit off the books. Are there some industries that can not avoid paying all of their taxes? I don't believe that for a second.

When the confiscation line is crossed, what ever that line is in an individual's head, then the wheels start turning.
MM

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