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In Moscow, Igor Panarin's Forecasts Are All the Rage

America 'Disintegrates' in 2010

News that Al Farnken will evidently succeed in stealing Ron Coleman's Senate seat caused me to revisit this Russian's prediction that the United States will be in Civil War by 2010. I've worried about the inevitability of it for several years, but Franken caps it for me. If I was a character in an adventure novel, playing the role of a DC taxi driver who picked Franken up at Reagan Airport, nobody would see him again. Reading that novel would not upset me in the least either, because in real life I have no moral qualms about dealing with criminals run amok, in what is now a lawless society.

Of course all that is really only fantasy.

It would not surprise me in the least to learn that the Russian Professor, himself an ex-KGB player, had a part in bringing things here to a boiling point, eh wot?. His map however is ridiculous. It represents the end result of some Yalta-like summit, where our enemies carved the nation up after subjugating us militarily. In fact, a civil war would result in a mass exodus of refugees fleeing for their lives. MoSup and I would likely head for the Virgina Tidewater, or mountains. Liberals living in Texas would head for the closest den of leftists, prolly San Francisco. Read about Bosnia for a better sense of what happens during a civil war. People are killed for he sake of killing. It truly is Hell on Earth. The American Civil War was not a a civil war. Bosnia was. Another secession of southern-western states would be a Godsend for the nation about now.

The thing will quickly evolve once the breakdown of military loyalties became known. Who controls the air, and the nukes? Truth is, I'm so disgusted with this gummint, I don't really care. I pay taxes and obey laws now out of fear, not through loyalty to a gummint I detest, I would like a Schumer or a Franken trophy before they get me though.

Where the hell is my freaking Prozac?

Rodger the Real King of France 1/05/2009 01:51:00 PM 26 Comments

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Anonymous said...: In addition to my earlier recommendations of "Triple Ought" by James Wesley Rawles, "Out of the Gray Zone" by Aaron Zelman, "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross, "Civil War Two" by Thomas Chittum, let me also mention "When the Almond Tree Blossoms" by David Aikman which covers military alliances and allegiances.; 1/5/09, 2:05 PM
Anonymous said...: Political and serious comments aside. Rodger and the people who read his blog are well read people, who seem to share a lot of interests that I do. Now, for a question that's somewhat unrelated to the topic. Does anyone actually know of a good Post-apocalyptic, or Civil War style fiction book, set in the United states?

I've been playing a game (mind rotting, I know, I know) called Fallout 3. It takes place in the year 2277. You come out of a vault like fallout shelter (which were advertised and maintained for what some saw as the imminent nuclear war) You come out, you're in Washington DC, and it's completely in ruins.

You can traverse the entire capital, most of it is actually amazingly close to real life, with some slight things off. The White House is gone, it's a big smoking crater in the ground. The Jefferson Memorial is used as a radio tower for some survivors to produce radio messages to anyone capable of listening.

It's a completely depressing story, and you can find little hints at what happened. SOMEHOW (and it makes some sense in the game, I'm not great at explaining it) The Chinese invaded Alaska, and in the chaos, worried about Canada being used as a relay point, we annexed Canada. Cut ahead 200 years, nobody knows who launched the first nukes (in the game), but the entire world is left in ruins.

Going on and on, but I wanted to know if anyone knew some post apocalyptic fiction like that. I'm fascinated by reading things like that, believable or not, apparently.; 1/5/09, 3:20 PM
Anonymous said...: Oh, and we'll invite Texas to join. Real friendly like. Don't want to mess with them. Maybe we get NM and Oklahoma too, so between them and Alberta and Saskatchewan we got most the North American oil & gas without the east and west coast pansies.

Hmm, better call Sarah Palin, see if Alaska wants in.

You guys be calling me sir yet.; 1/5/09, 3:23 PM
Anonymous said...: Also, having lived in five of the states on the board, here's a slight fix.

Texas would Annex the okies but leave New Mexico. Nobody in the south can stand New Mexico, as aside from the smaller towns and the rural areas, it's as blue as California in some ways. The citizens of Texas would create the most violent and bloody insurgency to ever be seen in the history of mankind.

There's a lot of solid, red staters in rural areas. The Chinese wouldn't control dick though, as I can honestly say, people in Washington and Oregon, hate Asians. Foreign countries might have settlements in Portland, Salem, and the pudget sound area, but with the exeption of those big cities, they wouldn't last a minute outside of the blue areas. As most Washington and Oregon people are gun nuts :D.

Arizona would get overrun by the Navajo's, most white people would get scalped (I live here now, trust me, this is what would happen), and they'd drive us into a war against the whites in New Mexico.

Montanta sucks. It's too cold even for the Canadians, trust me. I lived through the -45 weather everyday until mid spring. Not fun.

But I completely see a lot of States in the East going to the damn Euros.; 1/5/09, 3:47 PM
Anonymous said...: A civil war in the USA is too terrible to contemplate. Since you cannot tell what a person is by the place they live, there would be untold wrongful killing and mayhem.After enormous amounts of weapons, ammo, and troops had chosen sides and were used up, the UN would of course be ready, willing and grateful to send in masses of third world "peacekeepers", joined by a EU/RUSSO/SINO coalition to rape,kill, and steal everything in sight and even if American patriots and guerillas were able to gain control, the USA as a world power would be no more, fulfilling the dream of more countries of the world than I would care to think about.I don't really think we have many friends on this planet, chalk it up to envy, and our many, many enemies would do everything in their power to destroy and rob whatever was left after the conflict......Guess I'd just as soon be dead and gone as see a civil war happen here.; 1/5/09, 4:19 PM
Anonymous said...: If you haven't read "The Last Centurion" by John Ringo you might give it a go.

Rather interesting in view of recent events.

You can get it from Baen Books on the net or possibly from your local bookstore if the liberals haven't burned all the copies by now.; 1/5/09, 4:39 PM
Anonymous said...: I thought I was the only one who liked "The Last Centurion".; 1/5/09, 4:48 PM
rockville said...: You know how lefty nutballs have been howling for the impeachment of Bush? Not because he's done anything to deserve it, but as a reaction to the impeachment of Clinton.

This map is a communist's reaction to the breakup of the Soviet Union. Nothing more.; 1/5/09, 4:57 PM
Wabano said...: Total bullshit...

For a civil war, you need strife.

You guys' light case of dyspepsia is NOT civil strife.

After 9/11, a minor event in the grand scale of things, even
Al Sharpton was waxing patriotic.

Would Muslims detonate a suitcase
nuke downtown, all rags would
hang to lamp posts, hung by the
very leftards crying on their
"dire" condition now.; 1/5/09, 5:00 PM
cmblake6 said...: Well, I might live in NM, but it's only 10 miles east to Texas. I do believe I'd fit in much better there. Or TX can absorb NM, and we can run the blueies out!; 1/5/09, 5:00 PM
Gayle Miller said...: In both the South and the Midwest there are many, many, many quiet souls who are deeply patriotic but don't run their mouths (or for that matter their fingers) at any volume. But all of us are armed, skilled and watchful.

I'm just saying.; 1/5/09, 5:20 PM
Rodger the Real King of France said...: Wabano - we are about to experience economic turmoil of historic proportion, and - this is just a guess - beaucoup political assassinations. Is that strife?; 1/5/09, 5:28 PM
Anonymous said...: I'd be happy to be annexed by the Texicans, especially if I could live closer to Austin. Did I mention that the Longhorns are my new favorite team? 35 years of cheering for losers...there has to be a statute of limitations for foolish fandom.
Hook 'em Horns!
~merrily; 1/5/09, 5:39 PM
Wabano said...: The Clintoons where just as marxist
as O'Bomba...no assassinations there,
leftists are even considering them
conservative now.

Self interest will turn anyone the
color that is needed, especially
one "magic" duuude!!!
(Paris vaut bien une messe!)

A nation the size of the USA
is as easy to turn around as a hundred miles ice floe.

No, our "magician" is known as one that does not rock the boat.
Never did and never will.

The real sourpusses are the leftists that are waking up to the
fact that not much is going to
"change" under the neo-Clintonites'
reign...; 1/5/09, 5:59 PM
Anonymous said...: I don't think China, Russia, the Europeans are the UN wants to come to my neck of the woods. Might not end to well. Lots of guns lots of ammo and people who know how to use them well, with the will to use them if the need arises.

Spanky; 1/5/09, 7:24 PM
Anonymous said...: If the shit hits the fan, I'm grabbing my shootin' irons, leaving Jersey and heading south.; 1/5/09, 11:13 PM
Anonymous said...: "j" is me. Another case of premature eclickulation.; 1/5/09, 11:14 PM
Anonymous said...: I think Mexico would become a Southern State of Texarizona.
(Navajo's scalping Arizonans?? PLULEESE! My Navajo friends would help us kick the LA Raza types out.

If we fought them hard enough, we could force Red China to take over and hold San Fransisco.
I'd rather see Alaska glowing with radiation before we let the Red Chinese or the Russians have it.
RAK; 1/5/09, 11:23 PM
Anonymous said...: A bit over the top even for this site.

Bobby Ahr; 1/6/09, 12:16 AM
Anonymous said...: Jim I have plenty of land and can always use another hand around here with the chores. Another firearm are two is always welcome.

Spanky; 1/6/09, 3:11 AM
Anonymous said...: Who ever wrote this does not know America. First, SC would not be with the north, Hello, Ft. Sumpter. Tenn would fall with the South which will be known as the killing machine. The fags in Cali will sick lawyers on whatever and make noise but do nothing else but self consume. The Yankees will legislate and use their media for non effective psyops, and spend the rest of the time talking about themselves.

The South has the food, the energy and the war fighters. And the sole remaining belief in the founding fathers and God. The South will kick ass and bring back states rights, as it was before Lincoln and put it all back together again.

I can leave work early if you boys wanna start fighting right away.

Semper Fi and Boomer Sooner (anex this Texas); 1/6/09, 12:51 PM
Anonymous said...: Good post apocalypse read is "Lights Out" available on the internet. Deals with an EMP attack. Very good read.; 1/6/09, 12:53 PM
Anonymous said...: From the land of quiche eaters: We are silent, we are armed, we are ready, we are waiting. In the land of talking pacifists, those with the firepower will win the day.

From Oregon with love.; 1/6/09, 1:24 PM
cmblake6 said...: These are some pretty subtle comments indeed. Truth is good, awareness is good. Yeah, I may end up pretty much just like Spanky. You'd be amazed at most of the people around my neck of NM. Were there a secession, we'd be moving with Texas. And, uhm, remember that Alamo thing? Still in the heart here.; 1/6/09, 6:50 PM
Anonymous said...: Alaska will likely find Russia easier to deal with than DC. I suggest that we sell Hawaii to the Japanese now. They already own most of it and the Hawaiians hate us howlies anyway.

yatalli; 1/6/09, 10:01 PM
Anonymous said...: Josh - Try Niven & Pournelle *Lucifer's Hammer* or David Brin's *The Postman*

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Yeah, Ruski - TX is gonna let the Mexicans take over. uh huh...

e~C; 1/10/09, 12:15 AM

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