Monday, July 27, 2009

Conservatives to Obama: No Mas

Et Tu Ann?

Now that Ann Coulter has joined with John Stewart in denouncing us "birthers" as kook conspirators, I guess the jig is up.  A commenter on Hot Air's followup story wrote:
the fact that Birthers haven’t invalidated a key piece of documentation they’re claiming is invalid.

Can you invalidate it?
Hot Air comment registration is closed, so I'll have to use my own forum.

Let's remember how this all got started.  Obama's paternal grandmother, and his half-sister nonchalantly mentioned that Ann Dunham attempted to fly to Hawaii to deliver her son, but airlines refused her due the the advanced state of her pregnancy.  After Obama was born (on August 4th, 1961), she flew to Hawaii and recorded his Hawaiian birth, probably on August 8th.  That started the real questioning.  How difficult would it have been?  Piece of cake.  The now vaunted birth notices in Hawaiian newspapers would have been generated by that filing - Mr.Morrissey.

Here's that "key piece of documentation" that's convinced these folks to put critical thinking caps on a hook, or so it seems.
Q:
Has Obama's birth certificate been disclosed?
Is Barack Obama a "natural-born citizen"? It is hard to believe he could get this far in the electoral process and not have a sufficient answer to this question, I admit, but has his birth certificate been disclosed?


A:
Yes. His campaign made a copy public after speculation by conservative bloggers that he might not be a "natural-born citizen."
We asked for and received a copy from the Obama campaign. It is too large to display full size on this page, but you may click on this link to see a copy of the document just as we received it.

 
Ex-cuuuuuuuuse me for stating AGAIN that this is a Certification of Birth - an abstract of the original birth certificate that would  tell us what the fooking fark hospital he was born in, and who the attending physician was.

CNN/US President Jon Klein sent an e-mail to Lou Dobbs’ staff instructing them to put a lid on the birth certificate topic:

“It seems this story is dead- because anyone who still is not convinced doesn’t really have a legitimate beef.” Klein asked CNN researchers to dig into the question of why Obama couldn’t produce the original birth certificate. The researchers contacted the Hawaii Health Dept. and confirmed that paper documents were discarded in 2001 when the department went paperless. That reportedly includes Pres. Obama’s original birth certificate.

 Say What?

October 2008, Hawaiian officials reported that they had personally verified the existence of Barack Obama’s original birth certificate:

State officials say there’s no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino says she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.

Fukino says that no state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama’s certificate be handled differently from any other.

She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest in it.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

Ex-cuuuuuuuuse me for so rudely questioning how Hawaii officials personally verified a document in 2008 they now say was destroyed in 2001?   More to the point, why all the lies?  Hmmm?  Ms. Coulter? Anyone? The whole thing is like attempts to sell Global Warming - Lies, Lies, Lies at every juncture.  
Sigh
I'm sure there's an explanation for Obama telling people he was born in Queens Hospital, and immediately after his election changing it to Kalapani.  I'm sure.  Or,  maybe Stanley Ann did catch that plane .. to Canada?  My point being that Obama, and all of his surrogates have been caught lying, and changing their stories since this thing hit the blogs.  In my experience, people lie to cover something up. 

I suspect that this recent cave-in by conservative luminaries, like Coulter, is acknowledgment that Obama, with the full, awesome resources of the United States government at his disposal,  has pulled it off.  They don't want to be discredited when the grainy 8mm film made in the Kalapani delivery room is released.  The one showing  proud papa Barack placing a lei around the neck of baby Barry, while the hospital staff sing Tiny Bubbles. 

So, that's it.  You won't have Dick Nixon to kick around anynore. You'll nave Obama doing the kicking. Oh, the odds haven't changed.  It's still 99% he's not US born. Prove me wrong.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm done with Ann Coulter.She just became part of the left.What, she isn't smart enough to read the polls on this?
ozaoB

Anonymous said...

My guess is they're waiting for some Hawaiian doctor to die, so they can claim "yup -- old Dr. Whatshisnose. He's the one that delivered Barry right here in Hawaii."

tom said...

Well... How many flights a day/week/month are there from Kenya to Hawaii? Not that many. Especially back in 1961. Are there records showing an *earlier* flight, that would place Momma on the ground with a lei before the annunciation?
Hawaii won't release beans unless someone has a 'tangible interest'. I am no lawyer, but it seems that *any* citizen has a 'tangible interest' in the legality of their 'president'.
Wonder if a different 'birth certificate' was used to apply to Harvard or for scholarships, and thus the records are not being made available.
We may never know.
tom

Rodger the Real King of France said...

tom - some smart money is going to the theory that Obama was admitted to Occidental College as a foreign student, thus explaining the disappearance of all his college records.

Anonymous said...

It might or might not work but consider:

Suppose one or more states put strict vetting requirements for getting on the ballot in place by 2012. It would have to be in fairly republican states.

I believe the states would have the ability to set the standard of proof as to eligibility.

If ozero could not get on the ballot say in Alaska, wyoming and texas, the tingly legged media might be able to cover that up since the primaries happen over time. HOWEVER, in th runup to the general election, someone would start questioning why ozero wasn't running in those three states.

He'd have to either offer conclusive proof of his eligibility , forge documents or not run. Wouldn't that be fun

Bullseye

cmblake6 said...

I'm banging away at that over at my place too.
Personally, I'm NOT a "birther" exactly. I can totally believe it, and there are many other questions such as dual citizenship, what passport he went to Pakistan on, having HELD Indonesian citizenship does that not automatically hit the reset, on and on. I don't care WHAT it takes, I just want him out.

gadfly said...

Good stuff, especially in the comments here:

http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/07/swift-birthers.html

Be sure to read:

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2009/07/send-better-rebuttals-ongoing.html

Anonymous said...

Have any of you in the Barn Army seen this? ...?

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