Sunday, December 20, 2009

A Democrat Christmas

2000 Obamacare Pages, Distilled

Curmudgeonly & Skeptical

In the first 10 years (2014 to 2023),
  • Americans would have to pay  over $1 trillion in additional taxes,
  • over $1 trillion would be siphoned out of Medicare (over $200 billion out of Medicare Advantage alone)
  • deficits would rise by over $200 billion- unless Congress follows through on the bill's pledge to cut doctors' payments under Medicare by 21 percent next year and never raise them back up -- which would reduce doctors' enthusiasm for seeing Medicare patients dramatically.
The CBO's scoring contains what Bill Kristol  calls the key ten words: "reduce access to care or diminish the quality of care."

"It is unclear whether such a reduction in the growth rate could be achieved, and if so, whether it would be accomplished through greater efficiencies in the delivery of health care or would reduce access to care or diminish the quality of care."

Sen. Ben Nelson's principled (by traditional standards, not the Democrat Party's) stand against voting for any bill mandating taxpayer paid abortions was bought for $4½ million a year (the cost of picking up Nebraska's increased Medicaid tab).  The bill's default position is to pay for abortions; states would have to pass legislation to not fund abortions. Said Nelson, "I was a cheap date" (compared to Mary Landrieu). 

Matthew Continetti wrote Expect this sentence to get a lot of play:
  "CBO and JCT estimate that the direct spending and revenue effects of enacting the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act incorporating the manager’s amendment would yield a net reduction in federal deficits of $132 billion over the 2010-2019 period."
After that, CBO goes on, things get a little iffy:
These longer-term calculations assume that the provisions are enacted and remain unchanged throughout the next two decades.
Further words escape me.

14 comments:

Greg said...

"I was a cheap date." I guess that makes my two Democrat Senators (D-WA) both cheap one-dollar sluts.

Anonymous said...

This whole thing just makes me want to barf. I am very concerned that a lot of it cannot be undone. Once an "entitlement" is in place it is almost impossible to undo the damage. This may be the single worst perfidy ever done and the dhimmies MUST be held to account. I think boiling in oil and then drubbing them out of office forever. They deserve no less and anybody that forgets this event should be boiled as well. This is cleaned up as the law watches the net closely (thanks big brutha) and the Chicago thug mentality would demand no less of them now would it.

I hate democraps!!! Every damn one of these creeps deserve the worst possible punishment for what they are doing to our freedom and liberty.

bolivar

Rodger the Real King of France said...

That's why they're so damned intent on getting even a shell in place before next year. As Waxman said, "We can fix it later." It will become yet another untouchable "third-rail," just like Social Security. If ever there was a reason to rise up most angrily, this be it. I have a far greater understanding and respect for what our founders risked by revolting against Britain. Everything, including their lives.

Anonymous said...

Rodger nailed it.

What people don't realize is that even though the health care bill is missing abortion & a public option, just it's passage is the camel's nose under the tent. It sets precedent for government to control ALL aspects of your life now. It will grow and the insurance company failures due to the onerous requirements codified in this instrument will cause the "compassionate" legislators to come back and make a government system like Canada. Why? Simple - if they control your health care, they have you. You now have no rights. You immediately become a subject instead of a citizen. You will do whatever they ask to get health care for your children and grand children. You will become a slave to government bureaucrats.

More than half of the people in the US don't want this bill and they passed it anyway.
Rasmussen - 12/14/09
56% oppose
46% Strongly oppose
19% strongly favor.

AND THEY PASSED IT ANYWAY?

This will be very difficult to unwind when the Dems are thrown out in 2010. Once you give the moochers (there are more of them than the producers) something, you play hell taking it back.

If the gutless bastards had ANY scrupples and this WAS about health, Tort reform would be part of it.

If you banned ambulance chasers and illegals from the emergency rooms, we could afford to insure the truly uninsured easily with the savings.

Stick

Anonymous said...

I am PRAYING that about a dozen states stand up and refuse to go along with this, if on no other grounds than Nebraska and Louisiana getting sweetheart deals that they have to pay for. They will not listen to us, but they will have to listen to whole states.

If some states say this is unconstitutional and we will not comply, what happens next?

AWM
WV: refulkid- Re-fuel kid?

DougM said...

I think the Democrats' goal is to screw things up so badly, that they can say "Only a 100% government takeover can save health care."

Anonymous said...

Hi and howdy doody. I'm a union man, you can call me Rudy. Any you boys not paid up on your cards?
I don't remember. Was that Chunga's revenge?

Totally agree G.J. I had hoped fiscal responsibility would delay them until next season, but a democrat can't change their spots.

W.V. pines.... for the good ole days.
TDB

Rodger the Real King of France said...

If two states, Texas and Oklahoma, refused to go along, and in essence seceded from the union, I'd be happy, and move there in a heartbeat. The new Union would have a border with Mexico, insuring trade, and a sea port for its navy, and oil tankers. And a return to freedom from a tyrannical gummint. What else could you ask for? Needless to say, it would also have a surfeit of people with the "right stuff."

Alear said...

That'd put my Brownies in the SFL (Soviet Football League)? There's got to be a better solution.

Rodger the Real King of France said...

I'ma listenin'

Anonymous said...

Alear, it's time you let them go. They left you a long time ago.

Casca

Alear said...

Alrighty Rodg Lincoln, I'ma gonna fight for this Union of these United States. I've got a visa to McKinney, TX, wherein lives my bro with his fine family in a fine house. Across the street from the creators of Barney. They put on an awesome Halloween party.

But before I fly off to Galt's Gulch, I cannot give up on Ohio. As one in the select club of Peace Corps Republicans, I can speak Democrat. All Ohioans are currently conflicted, and some are misguided. It is encouraging how fundamentally good most Ohioans are.

If the Barn Army can hold off for another year from unloading on my ownzone, we'll deliver a Republican of renown for Guvnor, John Kasich. We'll replace Sniffles Voinovich with Rob Portman. Liberals of my acquaintance are aghast at what the Obami are doing, saying that's not what they expected.

It's better to hold what we own, RKoF, than to fight for it back in blood sweat and tears. Who is John Galt? Not me, not yet.

Turing word: dismul. This's gonna be a tuff fight.

Rodger the Real King of France said...

Spoken like a man who has something to live for.

Anonymous said...

DEATH TO TYRANTS!

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