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Friday, August 27, 2010
Perp Spray
19 comments:
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An ignorant dickweed said...
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Roger, if you are using it to ward off pesky home invaders then you are using it as intended.
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8/27/10, 11:30 AM
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Anonymous said...
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To me, a human perp is much more serious that an insect.
As an aside, Raid's Ant & Roach spray really does a number on spiders as well, even though spiders are not listed on the can as one of the pests it vanquishes.
drummermanrick -
8/27/10, 11:46 AM
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Anonymous said...
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Although Harry Reid hasn't invaded my home yet, he has invaded my life, he is a pest, he is vermin, he is dangerous, so if I use it on a home invader and say I thought it was Harry Reid, then wouldn't that be using it in a manner consistent with its labeling?
Lt. Col. Gen. Tailgunner dick -
8/27/10, 12:07 PM
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Anonymous said...
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So, you would use Raid on Reid?
Tim -
8/27/10, 12:17 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Wasp spray is a good option for those that can't or don't want to have a gun in the house. Better than pepper spay, cheap, unregulated. Don't expect that to last for long. It's too bad they don't make small pocket size cans.
AWM -
8/27/10, 12:25 PM
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MiketheRadioMan said...
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WD-40 is also a good wasp killer. Gotta put the straw on there, or it's not going to be as effective.
You know what else is good against a home intruder? A .40 or .45 cal round to the chest. The people who can't have guns in their homes are unfortunate (unless it's because they're whipped). Or they don't know how to hide them well enough from the spouse. The people that don't want guns in their homes are just plain pussies. The time is nigh for these people to cowboy up and buy a gun, cuz you never know if some crazed crackhead is casing your house, waiting for his opportunity to strike. Hell, I even carry inside my own home. Just. In. Case.
BTW, I picked up a S&W M&P40c last weekend. My new concealed carry weapon, since carrying a Glock 22 can be rather bulky at times. And I practiced good gun control on Monday. Oh, yeah...it's spot on. -
8/27/10, 1:34 PM
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Hell_Is_Like_Newark said...
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Is it also flammable by chance? Having a lighter handy could ad additional hilarity besides the perp trying to claw his eyes out.
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8/27/10, 2:00 PM
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Anonymous said...
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A couple of years ago, my daughter's job took her to a country
that forbids Mace, Tasers & such. She told me that several
of her new acquaintances carried small cans of insect spray
in their purses. -
8/27/10, 2:00 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Mike, you don't get it. For some reason or another some people simply cannot or will not be able to walk around the house with a .45 on their hip. Yes, we'd all like everyone's situations to be ideal all the time. It would be nice if everyone that can walk could carry a .45 everywhere they go, 24 hours a day, that's not going to happen in the real world. It's Not Happening.
Some people need alternatives. This is a damned good option #2. I don't trust my 10 year old girl to effectively use a .45, but she can use this. Yes, she IS a pussy. She's a 10 year old girl! When she's old enough she'll get her hands on more lethal hardware. For now, this is good for her.
I can carry in my state but not in any that touch it and I don't carry illegally into other states, it's not worth it, but I can have a can of this stuff in easy reach in my car.
Even then, I want to know about useful weapons that I might be able to reach in an emergency. I don't have a weapon strapped on my hip when I'm in the garage working on the lawnmower, do you? But I do have a can of wasp and hornet spray within a few steps.
There's also the legal aftermath of even a righteous shooting that can ruin somebody depending on where they live. This avoids the worst of that. It's especially a good defense when you have a gun but used this instead- you can argue that you could have slung lead but used this first. It shows you used restraint. If this doesn't work and you have to shoot, that legal defense still plays.
One more: you could have to control somebody that you do not want to kill, like an unarmed but violent drunk or mentally deranged person likely to harm themselves. The police have tazers and pepper spray for situation like this when force is justified but lethal force is not. I want that option too. So settle down, Dirty Harry.
AWM -
8/27/10, 4:38 PM
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Jess said...
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The bad thing is that they can sue you for pain and suffering. I'm guessing it's probably best to stake them in the back yard, while they're incapacitated, and the ants will take care of that problem when the insecticide washes off.
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8/27/10, 4:54 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Yep, it's tough to carry in your home. Which is why I am never more then a few steps from a loaded weapon.
MM
I live alone BTW -
8/27/10, 5:29 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Thanks to you and Mo Sup for the great tip. I'm buying for myself and my young daughter in her first appartment. We'll both sleep better thanks to you!
Ad rem... -
8/27/10, 6:45 PM
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Cheesy said...
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In the case of my wife, it's a toss as to whether the insect died from the poison or from drowning in it. She's got an itchy trigger finger.
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8/27/10, 10:05 PM
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MiketheRadioMan said...
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Methinks you read a little too deep into what I wrote, AWM, or maybe I wasn't quite clear. I was talking about adults who are capable of owning/operating a firearm, yet choose not to do so. I believe that everyone that can own a firearm and carry, should do so. I know it isn't possible.
Using lethal force has rules; I know full well that I can't go around "busting caps" in every mofo that pisses me off, and there are only certain conditions under which lethal force is truly justified. This ain't my first rodeo, cowboy. For less than lethal situations, I have trained to be able to deter/disarm/disable an attacker. I am also teaching my 5 y/o son the same, along with educating him on when such training should/should not be used.
Did you know that mace, tear gas and OC (pepper spray) have no effect on a small percentage of the population? I do, from experience. This may also ring true with this stuff; since it hasn't been tested on humans, there is no guarantee that it will work. There may also be legal ramifications for using such a chemical for self-defense purposes (see warning above). While law abiding citizens such as you and I may not have to worry about it, some scumbag could sue you (since your daughter is a minor) or press charges against you for using that type of chemical, even though if his monkey ass hadn't been trying to commit a crime, he wouldn't have received such treatment.
Yes, I carry everywhere that I am legally allowed to carry. All the time. Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. The states between my home and where my mother live all have reciprocity agreements with my home state. The state where my mother lives does not allow concealed carry. I follow the letter of the law wherever I am even if it sucks, simply because it is the law.
Gone are the days where we as kids could disappear on our bikes from dawn until dusk, and our parents never worried. The world has become a dangerous place, so I've tried to make sure I'm prepared to deal with it and so can my family. While I'm not knocking the idea of using the wasp spray as a defensive weapon, you may want to consider giving yourself and your daughter options other than just that. -
8/28/10, 12:30 AM
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Anonymous said...
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"For some reason or another some people simply cannot or will not be able to walk around the house with a .45 on their hip."
If you're in your home for heavens sake why not? The only place left that I can think of is shitcago.
"I don't trust my 10 year old girl to effectively use a .45, but she can use this. Yes, she IS a pussy. She's a 10 year old girl!"
My 10yo niece can load/chamber and fire a 9mm Beretta storm carbine, more than likely better than I could at her age.
In the end I would rather be judged by 12 people too stupid to get out of jury duty than trust 6 of my drunk cousins to not drop my casket on the way to the hearse.
Shoot! Shut up! Let your lawyer do the talking!
IrateIrishman -
8/28/10, 3:49 AM
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Anonymous said...
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Your all wrong!
Use oven cleaner it melts the perp's eyeballs right now.
it's what they use on your guard dogs when they break in.
Most folks don't carry a 45 when working around the house, but anyone can carry a 5 shot 2" .38or a little 380 in a pocket holster. Ruger rep was saying to me that they had sold 400,000 Ruger LCPs in about 2 year's time.
RAK -
8/28/10, 12:41 PM
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Cheesy said...
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Mike,
If one lacks the mindset to use deadly force, they are better off not arming themselves.
If you can't bring yourself to shoot in defense, there's a high likelyhood that they'll take your gun and use it on you, or someone else. -
8/28/10, 4:03 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Were me or anyone in my house (all females besides me) to use wasp spray in self-defense on our property, I'm sure there would be no legal problems. Were I to pull it from under my car seat and use it in NJ, it could be a very different matter.
A lot of this depends on where you live. I have lived places where I didn't want to be unarmed and made sure I had the most dangerous weapons I thought I could get away with handy at all times.
Not wanting to live like that, my family does not now live in such an area. They do still exist, you know- places where the danger is so low that mowing the lawn with a sidearm seems silly if not plain crazy. That's where I live and raise my kids.
The house is armed and the older members can handle guns. I have judged my youngest not yet responsible enough for that access, but I still want her to be able to defend herself. Maybe your 5 y.o. boy is a mini Rambo but my little girl is not and I'll never make her into one.
Females are sometimes too sympathetic to be trusted that they can shoot at another human where you or I would not hesitate. Not everyone has the warrior spirit, and that's really okay. Put a weapon in their hands that won't kill and they are more likely to use it when they have to and only have a couple of seconds to make the decision.
Police think it's good to have nonlethal options, I do to.
AWM -
8/28/10, 7:29 PM
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Kristophr said...
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Remove the magnetron tube from an old microwave and mate it to a home-made wave guide. Melt the bugger's brains inside their skulls.
Or just shoot em, shut up, and call yer lawyer. Then use the microwave ... deathryas are so much more civilized than mere guns ... -
8/30/10, 5:08 AM
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