Thursday, December 09, 2010

Flied Lice


UN's on the job
OldSpook    regarding nuclear mines and plots to detonate one in a US port...

I wrote this back in 2006.

I once saw a technical analysis of the after effects of a 10KT (small by nuke standards) detonation at water level in the Port of Long Beach - wiping it and Port of Los Angeles both out. Container from North Korea or Iran on a ship is detonated in the port facility just before unloading. The port, its facilities and most importantly, 60,000 people would die either immediately or within hours from the initial radiation, blast and heat.

Fallout would be quite harsh due to the shallow draft, and the abundance of water in which radioactive material would be carried by the superheated steam. Initially there are the heat and overpressure effects - followed by the probability of 500 sq miles of contaminated area that would cause the evacuation of 5 million people. On top of that the loss of most of the refining capacity, and a large number of industries in the area (entertainment, electronics, etc).

The losses would exceed 3 trillion dollars (for comparison, 9/11 was maybe 50 to 100 billion - less than 5% of that impact fiscally).

The guy in North Korea and his Apocalyptic friend in Iran would use such things with no regard to anything other than their weird cult of personality (especially Kim Jong Il and his Potemkin world) and the violent apocalyptic Koran version that the Iranians use. Scary to have so many lives riding on such thin reeds of irrationality.

The potential cost of inaction is very very high - millions of Americans depend on this - and probably tens of millions of Iranians and North Koreans as well (who would die in US retaliatory strikes).

Many would have shot Hitler and Tojo before WW2 had they know the horrors those 2 were to unleash on the world.

Should we be considering doing the same to Kim Jong Il and the Iranian Mullahs?

How do we look into the abyss without the abyss looking into us? How to destroy our enemies without becoming like them?

but wait ... there's more.


9 comments:

Anonymous said...

They both talk about retaliatory strikes by the US. I'm no longer sure that our rulers have the will to fight.
mary

TimO said...

The one thing we have going for us with Kim Jung Ill'in is that he does have a son coming up to replace him (otherwise he might just push the button before he dies just to do it). No one has said yet if his son is as nutball crazy as Saddam's boys (and no one ever gave credit to Bush for taking out those two Hitlers-in-training.
Does Amadinadingdong have any family reasons not to push the button??? If not we may not have any other recourse other than glassing over a huge patch of sand...

Anonymous said...

If you were ever in LA in the summertime, you know that punch bowl of hot smoggy air sits tight and just recirculates. The radiation would FILL the LA punchbowl. Forget the initial dead. Can you imagine the kidney/liver/blood disease cost that would be dealt to the US medical system over the next 5 years? The water supply to all of S. Cal is via open aquaduct, it would be completely contaminated. So many Japs that died at Nagasaki were unhurt by the blast, but they drank the water and were doomed. The chances our government would be able to stop this or deal with the aftermath is roughly 0%. Anymouse

Anonymous said...

If L.A. was eliminated by N. Korea I'd be pissed but I'm not totally convinced the nation wouldn't be a better place afterwards.

toadold said...

Ah yes a payback strike against the destruction of major US city. That will be such a comfort to everybody. Of course, the first thing to be done will be to appoint a commision to find out who did it, why they did it, and them blame Bush for it. Remember the old snake jokes. Rational Response to the sighting of an agressive poisonus snake:
"Snake! Kill it."
Large Corparation response.
"Snake! Create a group to study the problem."
Obasamabama will probably launch a nuke at the UK or Fox news first.

Cheesy said...

And now Iran will have missile bases in Venezuela, within striking distance of the US.
How long before thay are nuclear missiles?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203440104574400792835972018.html

Alear said...

And once the shooting starts, where does one stop? Do we shoot Hugo Chavez? Vladimar Putin? Hu Jintao? Hanky?

Rodger the Real King of France said...

In my novel there are only 1,376 left!

Chuck said...

Loss of hollyweird, loss of LA, loss of a HUGE illegal immigrant population, gaining a natural barrier to channel the reconquistadores into the desert, loss of a large sector of California's blue vote bloc...

Do we have to wait for the Norks?

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