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The thing is Powers wrote a book about what happened. The press pretty much ignored the revalations in it and as a historical event by the 1990's there was a generation of people who didn't know his name or of the incident. The myth that others had generated that he was taken down by a missle from his cruising altitude had both ideological and financial aspects to it. Supposed Soviet missle capability was used to take down the XB70 programs and etc. yada, yada. Farking home grown commies. Of course certain amateur aspects displayed by the CIA wonks who were running the program also came out in the book.
An irony is that Powers in later years was a helicopter newsie for an LA radio station. One day his engine failed, he crashed and was killed. Regardless of the manner in which his U-2 was downed, he survived and later died while broadcasting traffic information.
Brigadier Major Mike
I had a college professor who was a WWII vet who went nuts in class talking about how Powers let his country down by not destroying his plane and himself. The prof thought it was a given that folks doing that sort of work were not supposed to embarrass their country by getting caught.
I tended to agree with him.
Me too. Still do. Obama, the ball is in your court.
Engine, singular.
Around that time ('60), the US was developing satellite recce systems that would be able to see a whole sh*tpot more than U2s could, and without the repercussions of manned overflight. If your story is true, perhaps there was a budgetary consideration (See? We gotta have the funding nowwww!)
See also: SR-71
wink-wink Doug. Wink-wink
BTW, there's alot of cool stuff over at the Cold War Museum, coldwar.org thanks to Gary Powers Jr.
olds-mo-william
I was living in L.A. when Frank Powers (as he was then known) was flying the news helicopter. He and his camera operator were following a large brush fire out on the west side and simply lost track of how much fuel was in the chopper. L.A. being L.A., there weren't many places to set down when the engine was on fumes.
As to the U-2 incident, I stand neutral. Based on his later life, he was a good man and a tragic loss.
Hairy Nosed Wombat
The Soviet fighter that could supposedly shoot down an SR-71 or a U-2 could only make the altitude required by destroying its own engine, operating it past its design limits.
Usually killing the pilot by requiring an ejection in near vacuum afterward.
Didn't a SAM also take out a U2 over Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis?
I think it was an RF-101 making one of those suicide low-level recon runs that got the really good low-level pictures of the missile sites.
-Braz