Wednesday, July 27, 2011

When is an Ideology Responsible For Murder?

When is an Ideology Responsible For Murder?

Can We Talk Mr. Nazi?

The left wing media was only too eager to point to [Anders Behring Breivik's] ideology as the rationale for the shooting. David Neiwert of CrooksandLiars [...]

A more rational answer would require an ideology to fulfill two basic criteria in order to be blamed for a particular act of violence. First, the ideology must itself promote the sort of violence
get in their faces  at issue and the type of violence that takes place must bear some resemblance to the violence being promoted. This makes sense. If a group of pacifists shot-up a school, we could say with accuracy that they'd clearly misinterpreted pacifism. The same does not hold true of neo-Nazi ideology and Jews.

Second, a large number of adherents to the ideology must engage in or support the form of violence in question. It is possible for formerly violent ideologies to change over time -- no one, for example, save Timothy McVeigh, thinks that Constitutional ideology is violent anymore, despite Thomas Jefferson's proclamations about the tree of liberty and the blood of patriots. [Ben Shapiro cont.]


Well said, but let's not get carried away Ben.

Wunderkind Ben Shapiro has a mind like a steel trap, and is a member of that rarest of breeds—   hardcore Jewish conservatives.  But,  I don't remember Timothy McVeigh citing Constitutional purity  as motivation for his OKC bombing.  Instead,  it was being pissed off at the  government for WACO.    So here is my quibble, a rather large quibble— If  "Thomas Jefferson's proclamations about the tree of liberty and the blood of patriots" is no longer valid in his world,  at what point would he suggest taking forcible action to defend against a demonic government (on the off-chance one should ever emerge, of course)?


2 comments:

Jess said...

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

Shapiro is like many people. He's comfortable, his worries are minor and philosphical debate is not tempered by any necessity. The blood of patriots and tyrants flows when there are no choices except servitude or death.

Anonymous said...

The quote is much different is you leave out the "Tyrants."

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