 Senate Moves To Allow Military To Intern
Americans Without TrialThe bill was drafted in secret by Senators Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.), before being passed in a closed-door committee meeting without any kind of hearing. http://tinyurl.com/bulebyo marc miller |
Sunday, November 27, 2011
John McCain and Carl Levin ... .
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Anonymous said...
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If these reps vote for this, just go in and kill them ALL!!!Cannonman
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11/27/11, 1:01 PM
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I-RIGHT-I said...
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I can see right now I'm going to need a bigger gun.
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11/27/11, 1:05 PM
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Anonymous said...
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My understanding of the English language somewhat limited as I only have 53 years of experience but I am not seeing that provision in the link with in the link that you provided.
yat -
11/27/11, 1:36 PM
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I-RIGHT-I said...
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Read it again Sam.
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11/27/11, 2:03 PM
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Anonymous said...
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TITLE X--GENERAL PROVISIONS
..Subtitle D--Detainee Matters
...SEC. 1032. REQUIREMENT FOR MILITARY CUSTODY.
....(b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens-
.....(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.
Looks like we're rising to ACLU bait on this one. If ACLU does not like something, usually that means we should like it.
Lt. Col. Gen. Tailgunner dick -
11/27/11, 2:34 PM
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Anonymous said...
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I could be all wet here, but, like Lt Col Gen Tailgunner Dick, I smell a rat. The ostensible concern voiced by the ACLU, Occupy Wall Street
and others reporting on this is that the act would grant ‘worldwide indefinite detention without charge or trial’ authority to the military that would include US citizens on American soil, but the way I read the language in the act it specifically precludes anything like that.
They're talking about Subtitle D of the "National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012", "Detainee Matters". That section "affirms" existing "authority of the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered persons pursuant to the authorization for use of military force" and in it you'll see these provisions...
Section 1031: (d) Construction- Nothing in this section is intended to limit or expand the authority of the President or the scope of the Authorization for Use of Military Force.
Section 1032: (b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens-
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.
(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.
That seems clear enough, but because there may be some ambiguity there and because Sir Golfsalot has apparently threatened to veto the entire 2012 Armed Forces Appropriations Bill in its current form, Mark Udall has offered the following amendment...
"SA 1112. Mr. UDALL of Colorado submitted an amendment intended to be proposed by him to the bill S. 1867, to authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2012 for military activities of the Department of Defense, for military construction, and for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe military personnel strengths for such fiscal year, and for other purposes; which was ordered to lie on the table; as follows:
At the end of section 1031, add the following:
(f) Extension to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens.--The authority of the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered persons under this section extends to citizens of the United States and lawful resident aliens of the United States, except to the extent prohibited by the Constitution of the United States."
WBB -
11/27/11, 4:00 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Annoying Mike
The source of this is PrisonPlanet which is part of the Alex Jones/Infowars sites. Unless I'm mistaken, he's a nutbag 9-11 truther. I'm not sure this source's interpretation of the pending law is accurate, -
11/27/11, 4:41 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Where is the Barn Army Jag Officer Chuck Martel when you need him?
thoR~ -
11/27/11, 6:51 PM
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Kristophr said...
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Yep ... a conspiracy clown trying to start a panic.
This simply codifies SOP.
Join an enemy military, and you will either be killed, or if you surrender, become a POW.
If you are a US citizen doing this, you will get tried for treason as well, provided you survive being treated as an enemy soldier. -
11/28/11, 2:05 PM
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Anonymous said...
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(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.
GOT IT - DOES NOT EXTEND TO CITIZENS.
Now take a deep breath and rant about all the other b.s. -
11/28/11, 4:53 PM
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