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My wife liked The Help as well; me no so much. I saw it as just another film showing how mean and crappy white people are to black people.
I caught Apocalypto a few years ago on DVD and feel the same way.
It`s a brilliant movie even if propaganda for Catholicism and western civilization. The whole point of the movie was that final scene pointing out clearly who and what ended the Mayan savagery, and it sure was not any lefty liberal urbanites.
Just watched it last night. A good movie. Moved a little slow but then again we watched Sherlock the night before.
One thing I liked in "Apocalypto" was the escalating scale of the threat. It moved from the individual, to the village, to the society to the continental with arrival of the Europeans.
I don' recall anyone else making note of that but it's not like a read every movie review. And I thought it was well and subtly done.
I liked the Mayan movie well enough, didn't think it was great. I doubt I'll bother with The Help, don't much like uppity White People movies set in the Jim Crow South. Now, if Spielberg would make a cross between The Help and Apocalypto I'll be there ‘cause I love happy endings.
Apocalyto is the book end to Naked Prey (which emulated John Coulter's escape and running battle from the Black Feet). The Spanish ship at the end was just a stinger to the main theme. The movie was simply a chase thriller: the hero surviving against all odds to rescue his family. I love that the Commies in Latin America lambasted it but that the Mayans themselves LOVE Apocolypto.
RAK
" ... even if propaganda for Catholicism and western civilization"
I must have been out of the room when that part played?
A world without God's blessing will be much like the Mayan version, or were they Aztecs? Doesn't matter, they use the same cookbook.
Apocalypto is the answer to all who decry the arrival of white men in the New World. You should have seen the place before we got here.
Casca
I loved Apocalypto because the message is a triumph against "evil" by one man...more or less. It criticizes religious dogma, too.
The Help? Naw. I'll put on a terrific movie about race differences instead: Amistad. There's some real hope and change. "Give us free." Magnificent!
Another film that shows the brutal nature of Indians when whites first arrived, this time in North America, is The Black Robe. Anyone who thinks the whites were nasty to the Indians should see what was done by other tribes.
I saw Hugo Chavez cutting out hearts.
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1060 HD? Where would you get equipment to display such an oddball format?
You only think you're getting 1080. The King counted them and found we're being shortchanged so naturally he's advertising it. What?
"Anyone who thinks the whites were nasty to the Indians should see what was done by other tribes."
There's a reason so many American tribes were extincted. They were cruel and inhuman beyond belief and would f'ing eat you after they tortured you for days. The idea of the "Noble Savage" was a myth. Back in that day the word savage wasn't used lightly.
I saw "Black Robe" many years ago. One of the dreariest films I ever saw. An hour and a half of my live and six bucks I'll never get back.
My remembrance is that I spent maybe 7 minutes watching the "Black Robe" rental.
Guess I am in the minority.. I liked Black Robe. It IMHO gave a far more accurate portrayal of the natives (Huron and Iroquois) than the PC Hollywood narrative would ever allow.
"Apocalypto" is a great movie.
You might try Bernal Diaz' "The Truthful History of the Conquest of New Spain" if you want an account of what it might have been like to be an 18 year old Spaniard witnessing this sort of thing (meaning human sacrifice on an industrial scale) for the first time.
Nerk, I'm with you. It's a great movie. It exemplifies the behavior or the woodland indians. Nothing like skinning someone alive while roasting them over a bonfire.
Casca