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Wednesday, December 21, 2011

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Gun Butts & Pieces

Do Commies make anything that's reliable?

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This was forwarded to me in an email (smibsid). Don't know if this is true or not, but it sure looks nasty!!!

.44 Magnum accident

First it was baby formula, then pet food, but now you should watch out when buying anything from China, including bright, shiny ammunition.

A guy came into the police department the other day to ask a favor. He had a S&W 629 (.44 Mag) that he wanted to dispose of after a mishap at the range. He said there was a loud bang when he tested his new ammo (Chinese made), and the gun smacked him in the forehead, leaving a nice gash.

Looks like when the round in the chamber went off; .... [Maryland Shooters cont]

Chine4se Ammo

And here I sit with a cupboard full of NORINCO 7.92x33mm. GAH!

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Rodger the Real King of France 12/21/2011 10:04:00 AM 23 Comments

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23 comments:

Jess said...: I've dealt with Chinese, and other foreign materials for years. They don't have the quality control required for many applications. You get a hell of a deal, but the price might be more than you can afford.; 12/21/11, 10:36 AM
DougM said...: Dang! I hate when that happens.
Looks like the cases in the other two chambers were damaged by the high pressure as the cylinder started separating, exposing their powder, so they exploded, too.
Failure of the top chamber first could be due to a number of things:
blocked barrel (in this case, obviously not due to a squib),
too much powder,
bullet pushed into the case (reduced empty volume for initial expansion of gasses > overpressure; if the case is not properly crimp-sealed around its bullet, the heavy recoil can cause the bullet to slip),
metallurgical flaw, damage, corrosion, fatigue, bad juju, etc.
One other highly-unlikely possibility:
if one of the two adjoining cases was not properly crimp-sealed around its bullet, hot gas from the upper chamber could set it off, and you get a multiple ignition like the old muzzle-loading revolvers if you don't grease-seal the front of the chambers properly.
I'd love to know how this turns out.
Okay, now ask me why I always wear eye protection on the firing line, even if not shooting.; 12/21/11, 11:25 AM
molonlabe28 said...: I didn't know that the Chicoms made 44 mag ammo.

I use Russian and Chicom ammo in my AK's and I have some Wolf 223 ammo (what was I thinking?) that I have yet to shoot.

I used to shoot Wolf 9mm, 40 S & W (short and weak) and 45acp, but I quit doing so.

The shooter is fortunate to still have all fingers and eyes, which I infer because the photo refers to the shooter being smacked in the head with the revolver.

I have had a couple of 22lr Kabooms and even they were attention-getters.; 12/21/11, 11:29 AM
Anonymous said...: Latest variation of IED?
I see double charge of Red Dot or Unique.
Previously, out in the rice paddies: "Lun out of 2400? Doubre weight of Unique even it out same same. All lookee same same now."
Lt. Col. Gen. Tailgunner dick; 12/21/11, 11:44 AM
leelu said...: Why are we buying computers and ammo from out enemies??; 12/21/11, 12:10 PM
Anonymous said...: "Do Commies make anything that's reliable?"
Yep: Piles of corpses and poor people.

e~C; 12/21/11, 12:27 PM
El Jefe said...: I've got a CZ 97B and a CZ 75 SP-01. Both are extremely well made, cheap and - best of all - made in the USA; 12/21/11, 12:51 PM
Anonymous said...: NORINCO is an arm of the PLA (Peoples Liberation Army) and is totally controlled by them. I refuse to buy anything marked Norinco!

DE644; 12/21/11, 12:55 PM
Chuck Martel said...: Does this mean we don't have anything to worry about when the shootin' war starts with the CHICOMs?; 12/21/11, 12:59 PM
Mile 66 said...: I've heard nothing but good reviews for the H&R Pardner Pump Protector (Chinese Parts 870 knock-off - backed by Remington)evewywhere I looked. Seems like the tolerances are even better than some of the Remington's value 870s. And at $168 in Wallyworld and Dick's, I could not resist the temptation. So far, I agree with all the good reviews. The only problem so far, you may need extra time looking for some metric aftermarket parts.; 12/21/11, 1:53 PM
Mile 66 said...: Oh, and I know by experience that Reliable is synonyms with AK47, of undoubtedly commie origins. I've seen some of them in ridiculous condition, with almost 50% of their parts removed, and still shooting effectively. So responding to your title question, Yes.; 12/21/11, 2:05 PM
Anonymous said...: This is a MOLDY OLDY BULLSHIT story. Clinton banned import of Chicom ammo back in 92 or so and the Chicoms only imported milspec calibers MOSTLY 7.62.39. Some dumb-ass blew up his gun because he wasn't paying attention while he dispensed powder.
I dispise Red China, but this is just rank stoopid rebroadcast over and fricken over.
Rodger, no fault on you, but dang check with DougM on this stuff, he's the BArn Army Colonel First Class in charge of munitions.
RAK; 12/21/11, 3:01 PM
Kristophr said...: +1 RAK.

If you read the forum thread some more, the forum denizens there also shredded this story.

Some retard googled up a photo of a .44 mag reloading mistake, and turned it into another stupid fucking chain email.; 12/21/11, 5:06 PM
Darrell said...: Agree with earlier posts--that pic's several years old, it's been around the net many times. Not Chinese ammo, but a reloading mistake.

The Chinese are known for "quality fade" (read John Derbyshire's Chinese Junk), where the manufacturer cheats away from specification in order to make a buck. Since the Peoples Liberation Army takes a very dim view of such behavior (try a bullet in the back of the head), military goods such as guns and ammo don't suffer that problem.

Oh, and last I knew, CZs are still produced in the Czech Republic, not in the USA. They make fine handguns and rifles.; 12/21/11, 5:49 PM
rickn8or said...: Following up on RAK: Clinton banned 7.62 x 39 Chicom ammo in '92 because it had those ee-vil armor-piercin' cop-killin' steel core projectiles. Some idiot insisted on marketing a 7.62 x 39 handgun, and U.S. law specified no steel-core handgun ammo, soo...

"And while I'm at it, I'll just ban the import of ALL Chicom ammo."

Chicomm military firearms (Makarovs, SKS, AK's) got banned when it was discovered that some "Semi-auto" AK-47s were imported and made it to the streets with the Happy Switch (full-auto) still working.

But yeah, this looks like a classic case of a double charge kabooming a perfectly good Smif.; 12/21/11, 5:57 PM
I-RIGHT-I said...: "Do Commies make anything that's reliable?"

You mean other than Bill Clinton???; 12/21/11, 7:27 PM
SharkBait said...: Just ruined my 1911 barrel last week from a squib Wolf round. Followed it up with a normal load and "bang" off they went. That's what I get for wearing double hearing protection at the range (can't hear the squib) and falling back to training (failure to fire= tap, rack, bang). Well, it was bang this time, indeed. Call it a teachable moment.; 12/21/11, 8:35 PM
DougM said...: SharkBair,
Yeah, for that reason rapid-fire can be risky using hand-loads, too, unless one is meticulous.
(squib: powder doesn't ignite, but primer itself has enough oomph to push the bullet out of the case, perhaps only part way down the barrel)
I, too, thought about a squib being the problem in this revolver. The lower chamber in the pic is the one that would've been fired previously (this cylinder rotates CCW), but that chamber still has its bullet, so ...; 12/21/11, 9:06 PM
Anonymous said...: More likely hot reloads.

See if you can find any .44 magnum chi-com ammo for sale anywhere.
I don't think it exists.; 12/21/11, 10:59 PM
Anonymous said...: I doubt Hornady loads their XTP's in brass cases. And they never sold em to Red China. Hand loads... no, Bullseye can't be used with 2400 loads.
RAK; 12/21/11, 10:59 PM
Alear said...: "Do Commies make anything that's reliable?"

Sure they do: Ex-commies. Forget reliable, they're more fanatic than ex-smokers.; 12/21/11, 11:23 PM
SFAOV Sgsaur said...: I've got a 629 just like that, except mine's a hard-top instead of a convertible.; 12/22/11, 11:54 AM
Anonymous said...: I don't like the look of the metal in that gun. Looks crystalline.

JLW III; 12/22/11, 4:59 PM

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