Sunday, October 06, 2013

Redskins Forever

What does this have to do with the First Amendment?



 President Barack Obama says he would "think about changing" the Washington Redskins' name if

The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man falsely shouting fire in a theater and causing a panic. [...]

The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent.  Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr..;
Schenck v. United States1919
he owned the football team as he waded into the controversy involving a word many consider offensive to Native Americans.

Obama, in an interview with The Associated Press, said team names such as the Redskins offend "a sizable group of people." He said that while fans get attached to the names, nostalgia may not be a good enough reason to keep them in place.

I occasionally make an effort, especially after Sunday Mass, to love my enemies, but when it comes to Clownbama I'd   have to masquerade as the village idiot.  I really do see Obama as a psycho who HAS invaded my home, and at gun-point  forced us to hand over our titles of deed and wealth—and then— for good measure,  raped my wife and children (3 boys and a girl all), and on the way out reminded us- "I won the election." So, you see,  it's impossible;  but I do what I can.  In this Redskins case, I have just two words.  First Amendment. 


I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.Voltaire
The United States Supreme Court case Schenck v. United States in 1919, seems to be the genesis for what have become outrages against  First Amendment,  like "Hate Speech" laws.   I would argue that the court was wrong in 1919,  because it involved  the distribution of  flyers opposing the draft during World War I.  Clear and Present Danger?  I don't think so; I see free speech.  Plus, note that Holmes expressed the caveat "falsely" shouting fire in a theater ... .

Anyway, Liberals have latched onto  that "Fire in the Theater" euphemism to enact "Hate Speech decided by whom?" laws.    The dangers are  obvious, and inherent.  At the heart of the professional anti-Redsikin rabble's argument  is a suggestion that calling a team  The Redskins is as offensive as calling them The Niggers.  I hardly see the social parallel, but that's no never mind. 

I have a First Amendment right to call anybody, anything,  that does not infer libel or slander, whether it upsets you or not.   Voltaire's "..I'll defend your right to say it  ... "  was ubiquitously taught  when I was schooled, but now?   If enough people feel the same way about The Redskins as do the savage left, they can call them the Reds, or any g'damn thing they like.  But ban Redskins legally?  What Voltaire said. Sheesh!

STFU Barry.


10 comments:

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Anonymous said...

Because Washington, DC is the home city for the Washington Redskins, and because Washington, DC is the capitol city of the u.S. and, therefore, Federal land rather than part of a state, and because our petulant, despotic, autocratic Ayatollah Liar-in-Chief believes that he is the Supreme Ruler of all things American and, therefore, under his direct control, look for him to issue another of his "Executive Edicts" declaring the Washington football team name "Redskins" null and void and unlawful until they change their name to something more acceptable (at least to him) like the Washington Imams, or the Washington Non-Negotiators, or the Washington Liberals, or the Washington Empty Suits.

ScottiebillO

renojim said...

You don't choose a term for your team name because it's insulting or denigrating. You choose a term that implies strength, toughness and speed. It's complimentary, not denigrating, and I have yet to meet an Indian that even cares, much less is insulted by using terms like redskin. Just more idiotic babble by babbling idiots.

bocopro said...

Damn, Renojim

Ya beat me to th' draw on that. Almost exactly what I was gonna say about strength and skill and pride, and complimentary as opposed to disparaging.

Some years ago some students where I taught had a list of words they wanted banned, most of which referred to gender. They were proponents of shim, herm, heesh, and heshe to eliminate using him or his or he generically to refer to people.

One of the words they wanted banned was "flip-flop," which they said was offensive and insulting for Filipinos. When asked what they'd use in substitute for the term, they said it had to be "shower sandals."

My wife is Pinay and I had several Filipino students in various classes, so I conducted a little informal survey on how offensive the term "flip-flop" was to them. Standard response was that "it never occurred" to them to see it that way until somebody brought it up, and then most of them thought it was funny.

Ralph Gizzip said...

Let's call 'em the Washington Foreskins. Because DC is full of dicks.

iri said...

Hey, if you find this unfair, stupid and dishonest you're a racist. You know it too. Otherwise why would you allow the minorities to become majorities? This has nothing to do with Indians. It's all about you White boy. You've gotta go.

Skoonj said...

The left could have a point. Maybe we shouldn't name teams after Indians, Redskins, Braves, and so on. After all, THEY WERE THE LOSERS!!!! Why name a club after the losers?

David said...

Sell the team to a Philippines business conglomerate and change the name to the Manila Folders.

Mike C said...

Yea! They didn't lose this week! We're number 1! We're number 1!

Uh-oh.. Cowboys next week and they are mad about the loss to Denver. I predict another record high scoring game..

iri said...

"You don't choose a term for your team name because it's insulting or denigrating."

Huh? The Democrats chose the jackass didn't they?

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