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Friday, December 06, 2013
Ron Jeremy Can Teach You Something
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Anonymous said...
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The first answer that comes to mind is an extension on an old thought:
Those who can, do. Those who cannot do, teach.
Those who cannot do, teach, take another degree and become administrators.
Those who cannot do, teach, or administer, take another degree and teach education.
The teach / administer cycle is repeated under the guise of education.
A Mudgeon from Texas
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12/6/13, 11:41 AM
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toadold said...
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Back before I discovered that I liked kids for no longer than 15 minutes, I did some research on the education industry. One interesting thing was that a lot of prestigious private schools,like the Latin School in Boston at the time, would not hire education majors. They wanted teachers with masters degrees in the subject to be taught. A private school administrator said that they could teach them how to teach but they had to have a good knowledge of the subject to start with, and education majors no longer had it.
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12/6/13, 11:48 AM
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leelu said...
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No.
Those who can do, teach.
Those who can't do become administrators.
I looked into getting a teaching credential way back when. I gather they taught one how to teach, or did. I was also expected to start my masters degree.
But that was well back in the last century. -
12/6/13, 12:24 PM
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Jess said...
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I'm still trying to figure out how this pertains to porn.
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12/6/13, 2:13 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Trivia of the day - Education majors have the lowest SAT scores of any identifiable group on campus.
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12/6/13, 2:21 PM
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Tom Smith said...
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My wife has a PhD in Education and it means I can be self employed. Very smart woman and can out-math the math people. Practices as a guidance counselor and helps kids not hate school.
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12/6/13, 4:22 PM
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LindaF said...
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Several misconceptions:
- a degree in Education is what elementary teachers get. Yes, THEY have generally low test scores/GPAs, compared to other majors. However, secondary teachers DO major in their subject area - and, they have the same knowledge base as any other graduate. There is NO evidence that those who become secondary teachers are "the bottom of the class".
- a Master's or doctorate in education can be geared to preparing one to teach in college, go into research, or just get more money on the salary scale. SOME graduate programs are worthless (except for the bump they give in pay), others are worthwhile. I took one that gave me a computer ed certification add-on - and the people teaching in that program (the technical people, not the PhDs in education) were fabulous. I already had prior experience in building and maintaining networks, programming, and databases; but they taught me new things, as well.
- SOME Master's programs take a college graduate, and add on the coursework to teach.
- the market in the Northern cities is glutted with teachers. If schools want to hire the "top of the line" teachers, do so - they can be selective. The market in the South, and some parts of the western states is pitifully short of STEM teachers. They have to take what they can get.
It fries my butt that people sneer at teachers. Yes, there are dullards in my profession. Aren't there some in EVERY job?
If the teacher is a true professional, he or she does amazing work. Please don't lump all teachers into the same group. -
12/6/13, 5:35 PM
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Ralph Gizzip said...
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No, no, no!
Those that can, do.
Those that can't, teach.
Those that can't teach, teach Phys Ed. -
12/6/13, 6:07 PM
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bocopro said...
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After I retired from the USN, I collected my BA/MA and taught English for 15 years: dual enrollment, advanced placement, and university-level classes in Comp, Lit, CreWri, and TechWri.
FWIW, my BA was summa cum laude (3.98 GPA) and my MA was 3.76. One of my guiding principles always was that there simply is NO substitute for subject-matter mastery; I don't give a rat's ass for most degrees in "education," especially the EdD.
The Navy gave me the equivalent of a EE degree in electronics back in the 60s, but I lost touch with the exponential growth and complexity of microminiaturized circuitry starting with the earliest integrated circuits back around 1970.
So then I drove ships and played division officer and ass't dept head and all that desk-jockey stuff. But the fundamentals and discipline it all pounded into my head made competition with modern students a breeze for me.
I went back to ground zero, didn't test out or comp on anything, and carried between 18 and 24 credit hours per semester 'til I hit the grad program. Did the whole thing in 5 years, both BA and MA.
Most of the people I was competing for grades with never bothered to actually read the books and essays and criticisms the profs assigned; they simply went to CLC or Masterplots or Barron's Books -- we didn't have internet back in the 80s.
Those in the education classes were interested merely in becoming certified; they had no self-discipline or interest in actually learning anything other than Soc & Psych to get the degree and find a job somewhere.
I'd estimate the dedicated ones in the College of Education at around 15 to 20%, with the rest being also-rans who couldn't cut it in sciences of reading intensive courses such as English or World Lit.
Ironically, those who got the degree in English or math or science classes THEN got the teaching certificate fell into the trap of not actually teaching their students once they found a job in a high school somewhere but spent all their energy demonstrating how smart THEY were.
I hit the wall at the 15-year mark and retired before I developed a really shitty attitude and became part of the problem instead of a factor in the solution. What I noticed about the deadbeats with the worthless degrees is that principals tended to weed them out within a couple years if they didn't shape up. Many learned on the job, the rest tended to disappear before acquiring tenure.
Now, TENURE -- that's an entirely different discussion. -
12/6/13, 6:28 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Help me out. Explain again why you need a college degree and thousands of dollars worth of computers to teach a five year old how to read.
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12/6/13, 6:46 PM
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Rodger the Real King of France said...
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Teacher unions Tim; teacher unions.
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12/6/13, 7:46 PM
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Perfesser Plum said...
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Go here for the inside dope on deaducation. www.educationation.org
The Rant Archives -
12/6/13, 7:58 PM
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iri said...
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" Explain again why you need a college degree and thousands of dollars worth of computers to teach a five year old how to read."
Because that's how you attract way hot kindergarten teachers to your district. So tell me, who's against that? -
12/6/13, 9:25 PM
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BlogDog said...
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Spare the rod and spoil the child?
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12/7/13, 2:12 AM
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