TECHNO THRILLS
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Wednesday, March 12, 2014
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"small pieces of thorium ... were positioned to create a thorium laser. The lasers heat water to produce steam and power a series of mini-turbines."
This is total snake oil - a con job.
Lasers take power to run, they aren't power producing devices; they only convert some other form of energy (other photons, in the earliest lasers) to coherent photons of roughly equal total energy to that which was put in (the difference is the usual thermodynamic losses, and shows up as heat).
"just one gram of thorium produces more energy than 28,000 litres of petrol. Mr Stevens says just eight grams of thorium would be enough to power a vehicle for its entire life"
This is only true if you're converting mass to energy (i.e. some sort of atomic power).
I don't know the isotope mixture of 'common' thorium, or their half-lives, or the mass lost in fission when they decay, but I doubt 8 grammes of thorium produces enough energy from natural radioactive decay to power a car (any more than 8 grammes of, say, uranium would).
So he's basically insinuating he has found some other way to do mass->energy conversion to get more power out of it - which is, like I said, total snake oil.
"If it were that simple though, petrol would already be a thing of the past."
Well, at least the writer has some level of suspicion that this is total BS.
. - 3/12/14, 11:56 AM
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Lots of thorium on the Indian subcontinent and they are exploring it's use for generating electricity. It's apparently safer & produces less radioactive waste than a uranium based reactor.
ignore amos - 3/12/14, 12:11 PM
- leelu said...
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Back then (mid-last-century) it was a Revell kit. The Lindberg guys are newcomers.
- 3/12/14, 12:30 PM
- Rodger the Real King of France said...
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Thanks, I was only able to find a Revell model for Nautilus II.
- 3/12/14, 12:46 PM
- Nelson said...
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The first anon post is somewhat BS. Sure, a "thorium-powered laser" would be pretty ridiculous, but also totally unnecessary. Thorium produces enough heat on its own to generate the steam directly. A few years ago, I think on barking-moonbat.com, I read about a thorium salt reactor which could be the size of a shipping container and generate the power for a medium-sized suburb, for 25 years. When the fuel runs out, just replace the shipping container. Chain multiple reactors together for redundancy and to power larger cities. Thorium is self-regulating; if the reaction starts to get out of hand and overheats, the heat will kill neutron production, thus maintaining control of the reactor.
The best thing is that the thorium reactor was one of the earliest types designed for electrical power generation, so it's already approved by various regulatory agencies and units can be built at any time.
I would think that a smaller amount of thorium would certainly be able to power an automobile, even a plug-in car which could power a house if city power went down. - 3/12/14, 1:00 PM
- Ole Phat Stu said...
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And if the car has an accident?
It pollutes that piece of road which has to be shut for 5 halflives (10^11 years). A few of those and the road network fails... - 3/12/14, 2:16 PM
- Jess said...
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If it's in Jersey, who cares?
- 3/12/14, 6:23 PM
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Well, I care if it's in Jersey, for one. Where do I send money to contribute?
- 3/12/14, 10:31 PM
- BlogDog said...
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Karl Denninger over on Market-Ticker.org has repeatedly posted about the use of LFTR (liquid fueled thorium reactors) as the best bet for energy prodection. Thorium is cheaply available in coal but not even in the coal that needs to be dug: it's in the coal ash of coal that's already been "used." And the reactors could be used to produce energy to recombine hydrocarbons in the atmosphere to make gasoline so in a way we can have "nuclear powered" cars.
- 3/13/14, 12:43 PM