Monday, March 31, 2014

Gun Advisory



A Highly Detailed Private National Firearm Owner Registry Exists
An advisory for you to consider





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Basic Background--details to follow shortly: Recently one of our staffers decided to join Gun Broker to observe secondary market sale closing prices, he did not want to sell anything just be a "buyer." To do this one must register with Gun Broker- fair enough. And buyers need not collect money, etc. as that is the seller's job as is paying Gun Broker its commission and charges. This may sound like sour grapes--it isn't, we are very concerned about the personal information Gun Broker requires and has in their data banks--especially when coupled with firearm ownership in today's hostile Second amendment anti-gun environment.

While gun owners may not tell a neighbor they own guns they apparently will tell an anonymous data base business that and much much MORE. The NRA and other firearm organizations do NOT ask for personal information like Gun Broker.

Our staffer submitted his info. (now in their system forever) but did not see a warning about no P.O. Boxes (if it was near the line where one enters the address). Gun Broker responded saying he was "suspicious" and demanded a FAX of his driver's license. A driver's license contains lots of information and some (not our staffer) even list their Social Security Number on their licenses. He refused.

Gun Broker countered--FAX a copy of a blacked out license and/or two copies of other documents that will prove his physical address (where the guns might be)--AND--even after getting that information they may need more.

 Full report here, FWIW


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3 comments:

Anonymous said...

Well, this should be obvious to any GB user (me). When you can look back at your purchases the last few years, it gives one a sick feeling in the pit of the stomach. -Anymouse

gadfly said...

NSA does not stand for National Shooters Association, so the government undoubtedly has electronically extracted GB's customer info.

Revernd Idaho Spud said...

I may know somebody who has made several purchases through Gun Broker over the years. Transaction records on file at GB may be subject to search and seizure by the ATF just like the California Gun store that was recently raided by the ATF, Their files can also be subject to subpoena/raid/court order. But, even if someone buys a gun through GB it still has to be shipped to and recorded by an FFL. FFL information can be handled 1 of 2 ways. If a person has a CWP then a registration/transfer form is completed and the file is held on premise with the FFL holder. NO call is made to the NCIS. If a person does not have a CWP then the FFL has to call in to the FBI (NCIS) National Instant Criminal Background Check). If the buyer is clear the transaction in completed, the same as someone who has the concealed carry permit, and the form stays at the premise of the FFL dealer. So, at any time the ATF can come to a FFL and request (demand) access to his/her records. If an FFL goes out of business all of his records (no time limit) of the transactions are sent back to the Federal government. Soooo..? They have a record of you already, one way or another. The only way out of the system and the number of guns one owns is a private, unregistered sale / purchase. The solution is to spread guns around, hide, bury, give to family etc? If they want to come for them they technically already know where they are. Case in point. If law enforcement pulls you over for a tail light infraction by the time they get to the driver door they know if the driver has an CWP based on the license plate. They will presume that there is a firearm in the vehicle. Just a FYI.

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