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Monday, February 09, 2015
I Neeeeeeeeeeed ....
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17 comments:
- OregonGuy said...
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Those drive belts are probably proprietary. So, there's a future cost that will give your pocketbook a major pranging in the future.
. - 2/9/15, 2:18 PM
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"Those drive belts are probably proprietary..."
Heh, For drive belts read 'o-rings'.
But since they are probably the exact same o-rings used on the Space shuttle motor that blew up, your point still stands. - 2/9/15, 2:30 PM
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I'll sell you my Transcriptors Skeletal TT for 1/10 of that. All glass and aircraft aluminum.
- 2/9/15, 3:01 PM
- Esteve said...
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I think most of the folks that read this site will remember when a Shure stylus upgrade in the $50 plus range was a big deal.
- 2/9/15, 3:13 PM
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When I was still a pro musician and music was my business, I used only the most efficient components.
Belt-driven turntables = no, regardless of brand and cost.
Direct-drive = wonderful. Technics 1400-line is still the best.
Once you reach a certain part of the quality curve, the prices become stupid for tiny incremental improvements in quality.
(Aside: I had Bose Studio Craft speakers, which is what the recording studios used because of their sound clarity. The next best speakers cost three times as much, for no audible improvement in quality.) - 2/9/15, 4:06 PM
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Hrumph. If $14,999 for a turntable doesn't constitute a "major pranging" in the here and now, I'm not sure I want to know what would constitute a major pranging in the future.
Sir H the Comet - 2/9/15, 4:09 PM
- rwnutjob said...
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My college roommate spent a shit-load of money on his way out of the service in 1971. He had a Thorens transcription turntable with chain drive to keep the needle from becoming tangent to the groove.
http://www.dtsvinyl.com/turntables/thorens-td125-turntable - 2/9/15, 5:51 PM
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I designed the zero tangent error tone arm when I was 15 years old. Then I discovered it had already been done. ;^)
Darn, I'd forgotten all about that until you reminded me. - 2/9/15, 7:02 PM
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Garrard GT-55 had a tone arm that had a similar effect
- 2/9/15, 8:04 PM
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I agree with Kim in essence, although I put the point of idiotically expensive diminishing returns a good bit further out, having been one of those idiots myself. This turntable is far, far down the curve.
We spent several years building an audiophile stereo, and there is some amazing gear out there. And the prices are quite mad. We looked closely and decided that analog - ie record players and all their stuff - was an elitist's game, and a continuous money eater. So we stopped, and have been giddy with what we built for more than a decade now. This turntable is a bargain compared to others. And you still need the $3500 stylus, and the $5000 phono-amp, and the $2000 wire to connect them, etc.
The latest audiophile trend is towards streaming audio, so replace all your CD, radio, tape, and vinyl gear with digital only computer files. I doubt we're going there until the market kills high-end CDs and DVD-audio.
Audiophile gear is crazy expensive, and sometimes spending much more only buys you a tiny tiny bit of better, and that "better" can be more an opinion than a fact.
Granted, once your complete system costs as much as a mid sized car, you can't really use any of those tiny incremental improvements unless you can build yourself a custom, large, dedicated listening room. Which will cost you at least $65K, probably $100K. Count me out.
I advise people with open minds and open ears to learn what makes good sound and a good recording before spending anything, and then only listening to gear within their price bracket. Be happy with your music, regardless of what it cost. You don't need to drop $30K to get good sound. And when you are ready to buy, pick through the used equipment. eBay and CraigsList is drowning with it, and every audiophile stereo store has tons of lovingly cared for gear you can get for pennies on the dollar.
- 2/9/15, 8:21 PM
- Chris in NC said...
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Yeah but no matter how good it is, it can't make today's music like Kanye sound good...
- 2/9/15, 9:10 PM
- toadold said...
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It's bad that age and exposure to loud noise over the years have pretty much destroyed my sense of pitch. What's really bad is that I can tell that a lot of the current "musicians" seem to have done the same thing.
If you can't hear half the frequencies a high end analog set up produces then you are wasting you money. - 2/9/15, 9:49 PM
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Im not sure, but are you saying I shouldn't use a quarter taped on the tone arm?
Tim - 2/9/15, 11:03 PM
- Unknown said...
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I can remember helping my dad shop (down on Dey St. in lower Manhattan) for the best stereo component system he could afford. He got a Harman Kardon A300 amp and a Garrard turntable with a Shure cartridge. I remember watching the tubes in that amp change color as they warmed up.
The first records he played on it were Command Records' "Persuasive Percussion" and other albums by Enoch Light and the Light Brigade, featuring Tony Mottola and Doc Severinsen. - 2/9/15, 11:37 PM
- Esteve said...
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I always appreciated the young corpsman who after a flight physical audio gram recommended that I not waste money on high end audio equipment. That was on a West-Pac cruise when the dollar was strong and guys on the ship were buying good Japanese equipment by the boat load.
- 2/10/15, 10:02 AM
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I always liked cassettes because they don't scratch when you throw them around.
But now I've got the YouTube to MP3 app and all the best tracks forever. The wind in your hair makes it sound good. - 2/10/15, 12:48 PM
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What a pack of old bastards. Buy a CD player... or an IPOD.
Casca - 2/10/15, 4:28 PM