Tuesday, May 31, 2016

Is Trump just another Fascist?

Is Trump just another Fascist?
An adult, and scholarly answer from John Ray

I have commented on this accusation before but the article below originates from the NYT so I probably should offer a few more comments.

Trump retweeted a Mussolini quote: “It is better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as a sheep.”

Asked by Chuck Todd on the NBC program “Meet the Press” about the retweet, Trump brushed off the quote’s origin.

“I know who said it,” he said. “But what difference does it make whether it’s Mussolini or somebody else?”

“Do you want to be associated with a fascist?” Todd asked.

“No,” Trump answered, “I want to be associated with interesting quotes.”
For a start, Trump is if anything philo-semitic rathrer than antisemitic.  That's not strictly relevant as Mussolini was not antisemitic either -- until Hitler pushed him into it.  But in the popular mind Fascism and antisemitism are strongly associated.  When Donald opened his club in Palm Beach called Mar-a-Lago, he insisted on accepting Jews and blacks even though other clubs in Palm Beach to this day discriminate against blacks and Jews.  And his recent speech at AIPAC was warmly pro-Israel.

But picking at little bits that Trump has said here and there miss the main game entirely.  Fascism was LEFTIST and Trump sure is not that.  There has NEVER been a Fascist type regime emanating from  conservatives.  Some past conservative regimes have in fact been remarkably libertarian -- the 19th century's Lord Salisbury, for instance

And the various Latin American dictators of C20 were Bolivarists, not conservatives. And Bolivar had little time for democracy.  The keenest modern-day Bolivarists rule Venezuela. Enough said about that, I think.

You would have to go back to Oliver Cromwell to find a dictator with any sort of conservative identity and Cromwell was not much of a dictator.  He was invited to his role by his fellow Puritan leaders, who saw the need for strong leadership in turbulent times. Cromwell was certainly hard on his Irish opponents but they largely brought that down on their own heads.  There was no Geneva convention at that time.

Leftists moan about Pinochet but he rose to power in response to a desperate plea from the Chilean parliament after a Marxist president had burnt the electoral rolls.  That Pinochet  subsequently used Leftist methods to round up Leftist opponents of his rule was simply a case of him giving the Left a long overdue taste of their own vicious medicine.  And Pinochet was not in fact conservative.  He was originally appointed to the army leadership precisely because he was seen as non-political.  He was just a General doing a job to which he had been invited.  And he retired from that job voluntarily.

Outside of Africa, ALL the vicious regimes of C20 were Leftist -- whether Communists or Fascists.  So the fact that  Trump is not a Leftist GUARANTEES that he is not a Fascist [John J. Ray (M.A.; Ph.D.]
Nothing to add here boss.


Anonymous said...

You are probably correct. Still, the "death squads" (usually associated with Fascist regimes) might prove useful (not to mention entertaining) as we strive to undo the damage that has been done under Obama and his fellow America-haters.
A little "ethnic-cleansing" might not hurt either.

Caballero Andante

Wabano said...

A complete de-nazification campaign will be sorely needed...or we will go right back to Barry Hussein's Islamo-nazi-communist nightmare...

Anonymous said...

I suggest "Liberal Fascism" by Jonah Goldberg if you like this post.

James Hooker - Nipple Whisperer said...

**Caballero Andante**
Something about that bothers me. Can't quite put my finger on it.

Anonymous said...

Well, spit it out, "Nipple Whisperer"! Does you need a translation?

(Nothin' 'bout your handle bothers me; I've whispered to a few nipples in my time, and other parts, too.)

Anonymous said...

[The above comment was posted by Caballero Andante.]

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