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Sunday, May 04, 2008

Horror, etc.

Photos of Hiroshima

Photographs taken by an unknown Japanese photographer, and found in 1945 among rolls of undeveloped film in a cave outside Hiroshima by U.S. serviceman Robert L. Capp, have been released by the family. "Unlike most photos of the Hiroshima bombing, these dramatically convey the human as well as material destruction unleashed by the atomic bomb."

WTF? Like, it hasn't been conveyed enough? Like many of you, I've been enured to such displays after seeing too many such grisly specimen, and also by the motive behind most such exhibitions today, e.g., demonstrating how cruel, evil, and barbaric was United States to unleash this fury. I only looked at a few myself, because ... why? That there was anything left to photograph in the first place might be taken as demonstration that the whole thing was over-blown. Fact is, the fire bombing of Tokyo took more lives, and pictures of those corpses would be similarly disturbing. But, not as disturbing as pictures of Japanes soldiers using bayonets to pitch-fork Chinese babies, or behead American servicemen. See them here, if you want.

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Anonymous said...: It boggles the mind that people exist who believe that war is so bad that living as a slave is preferable. The electrical defects in a brain that condemn US responces to Japanese attrocities would be funny if they were not so sick.
Tim; 5/4/08, 1:09 PM
Anonymous said...: I won't go look because:
http://www.nanking-massacre.com/RAPE_OF_NANKING_OR_NANJING_MASSACRE_1937.html
Enough said.
Lt. Col. Gen. Tailgunner dick; 5/4/08, 1:12 PM
Anonymous said...: Whenever I see rat, I'm reminded of Victor Herman, an American sucked into the gulag by misfortune, and his memoir, "Coming Out of the Ice". He survived because he was young, and smart enough to augment his meager ration with the rats who inhabited the structure known as the dead house, where the corpses of the prisoners were stacked. He fashioned a trap, and everyday before going out on his work detail, he'd gather his prize from the dead house, and stick it under his garments, next to his skin to thaw it, so that he could get it to a temperature where he could eat it... raw. Life can be very hard. We are so spoiled by wealth, spoiled enough to support all manner of foolish thought. Necessity clears the mind.

Casca; 5/4/08, 1:38 PM
Wollf Howlsatmoon said...: Boss....the Sar'Major, my Sire, was a China Marine leading up to the War...some of the pictures he took as an amateur Photog, including some true Jap Atrocities that the ran across on patrol, are Mind Searing.

Hiroshima, Nagasaki.....*Boom*. Atrocities and Hostilities ended.

Eff the Apologists. Those nukes Saved Lives. Just imagine the land invasion of Japan.......; 5/4/08, 2:26 PM
Anonymous said...: http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=enola1nz2.jpg
This is my father on the island of Tinian. 1st. Lt. in the Army Air Corp
Ozaob; 5/4/08, 3:55 PM
Anonymous said...: The Japanese are fortunate in that we did not cotinue the firebombing or nuke em some more, for good measure.
MAbe we should have turned Japan over to Nationalist China to manage after the war?
RAK; 5/4/08, 4:12 PM
Thud said...: Atomic bombs during pacific war are just items on the list the left keeps that we are supposed to be ashamed of..slavery,colonisation etc....I don't lose a single minutes sleep over any of it.; 5/4/08, 5:33 PM
Anonymous said...: Sharp, color macro photo by a starving refugee in 1945. I suppose it is possible, but this really seems like a fake.; 5/4/08, 5:53 PM
LGD said...: Because our carrier raids destroyed the railroad net, the Japanese could not get the rice harvest into their cities from the countryside.

Had the war not ended after the A-bombs, there would have been mass starvation in Japan.

As it was, famine was averted only by the US shipping thousands of tons of rice and other foodstuffs to Japan.

Japan, the militaristic enemy that attacked all its neighbors without just cause or warning. Japan, which treated conquered peoples and POWs so brutally. Which violated every Geneva Convention it had freely agreed to follow.

After the war, we fed Japan. Then we helped it rebuild. Then we imported its products and spent our lives and treasure so that it need not spend on a military and could invest in manufacturing and technology.

It must be for reasons like this that Leftists think Amerikkka is so eevil.; 5/4/08, 7:49 PM
Anonymous said...: Read Studs Terkel's interview with Paul Tibbets. http://tinyurl.com/3k9tsn
Here's the short version, "Studs Terkel: Do you ever have any second thoughts about the bomb? Paul Tibbets: Second thoughts? No."

marc_m; 5/4/08, 9:09 PM
Anonymous said...: You know I read all about this leftist handwringing and whining about how awful we are and I just can't help but think...we need to be more brutal and evil and all of that in wartime. Then maybe people would learn NOT TO FUCK WITH US and we wouldn't have to listen to all of this shit.

Even in high schools today our kids are spoon fed this crap about how bad we are/were during WW2. As long as we are allowed to wring our hands as a country then wars will continue -- because the other sides will always think we will back down. I want them to FEAR us and be REPULSED by us and QUIT STARTING SHIT!

Ahhh, I feel better now,
TFV; 5/4/08, 9:17 PM
Anonymous said...: Malloy's site is hammered with traffic jams, so here's another place:
http://www.phawker.com/2008/05/04/clarity-with-great-power-comes-great-responsibility/

Malloy is a social studies professor specializing in nuclear history and protest demonstrations in America, got his PhD at Berkley. Guess what his bias is?
The photos are no big deal to me. The Rape of Nanking, Holocaust, WW1
photos are just as bad or worse.

I wonder where members of Malloy's family were in the summer of 1945? Some of mine were training to invade Japan after surviving European and Pacific campaigns, as were millions of others. Fuck Malloy and his revisionism.
Lt. Col. Gen. Tailgunner dick; 5/4/08, 9:34 PM
Anonymous said...: It is interesting that people get so defensive on this topic that the mere fact of of finding and publishing photographs is seen as evidence of a leftist conspiracy to defame America.

What happened, happened. We should be able to face it with our eyes open and draw conclusions from the evidence. Not complain the viewing the evidence is somehow an affront to the U.S.; 5/4/08, 10:55 PM
Wollf Howlsatmoon said...: Taigunner, Sir, agreed and wholeheartedly...the pictures are just that though.

The true Horror was for those who lived and died because of those affairs.

Anonymous at 10:55EDT..."evidence".
Bravo Sierra. They, those photographs, are an historical snippet of time...the "leftist conspiracy" to defame America does exist, and it needs to be attacked with as much vigor as those who have "Been there, Done that" attacked their enemies.

America, the Country that I bled for, is by and large Good. I don't need, nor am I able, to stomach many of the photos that you seem to think we should be able to face.

Oh, yeah....I'm not only "defensive on this subject"....I can just as easily become Offensive.

Eff that comment.
Semper Effing Fi.; 5/4/08, 11:17 PM
Anonymous said...: Anon 10:55 said
viewing the evidence is somehow an affront to the U.S.
I don't take these photos as an affront to the US any more than I take any combat photo as an affront; just as you say, it happened.

What I do take as an affront is Malloy's use of the photos. Malloy is pimping his book Atomic Tragedy, in which he used the photos and speaks of them breathlessly like he uncovered some dark secret.

From the tone of his synopsis, he makes it sound as though Secretary Stimson was forced against his will to commit a crime. I guarandamtee you the decision to use those weapons was not made lightly, and you can bet there were some heavy and fearful hearts who finally said we should do it.
We saved millions of US lives, and BTW, millions of Japanese lives as well. Malloy implies that the US committed some kind of war crime using the Bomb; my father, four uncles, my grandfather and millions of others in the US Armed Services at the time didn't think so.

Where were your family members at the time? Ask them, if they were in the Armed Services at the time and you are lucky enough to still have them, how they feel. Mongolia and Nanking, China didn't ask to be raped and murdered, and we didn't ask for Pearl Harbor and the Bataan Death March either. Three years of brutal combat against the Japanese gave a foretaste of what was to come if we invaded Japan to end the Pacific War. How dare you judge the good men of the time who had the guts to do what was necessary.
Lt. Col. Gen. Tailgunner dick; 5/5/08, 12:11 AM

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