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Rodge, I'm a field claims adjuster and deal with totals on a daily basis, so let me try to give you some backgroung info.
States differ on the threshhold at which a car totals. In Ohio if the damage is 70% of the actual cash value then it's considered a constructive total loss. Most insurance companies use a computerized database to get the actual cash value of a vehicle. It's essentially a market value of your car based on comparable vehicles in your geographical area. You can check sites like NADA to get a general value, but those will always be off, sometimes by a great deal. If you think you got a crappy deal from your insurance company then you can always ask to see the report they ran.
With a front end collision that goes into the engine compartment, you will most likely have "hidden" damages especially the a/c condensor, radiator and other engine components. All the engine area work is billed at mechanical rates which are typically 60% higher than the rates for straight body work. Then there's the issue of frame time which is also expensive if needed. It seems clear that the car was a total based on the estimate of $5,700 and high probability of hidden damages.
As far as the salvage goes, I always offer to allow the owner to keep it. It works this way: I get the average salvage value from several junk yards and to arrive at an average salvage value (what your car is worth in its present damaged condition). If an owner wants to keep the salvage, then I issue them a check for the total loss amount less the deductible and less the average salvage value. Speaking for Ohio only, if an owner keeps the salvage it is up to them to get the title changed to reflect it as a totaled vehicle. If they subsequently get it repaired then the title is changed again to show it as a repaired totaled vehicle.
Believe me, the last thing an adjuster wants to do is mess with having the vehicle towed to a salvage yard, wait umpteen weeks for an owner or their loan company to get the title, have it signed and notarized, send it to the salvage yard and await the sale to finally close out the file. It's much MUCH easier for the owner to keep the vehicle as it closes the file out then and there.
If you have any questions let me know.
Glad she's ok and it worked out. So do you have a deck full of payments or did the 8500 cover most of it?
Happiness is warm buns.
Casca
I just spent 10 days in the Rockies and points north and a bit east. Rented one of those Sonatas with a 6 cylinder. VERY NICE car! Got about 33 MPG at 65 MPH. When it was 25 degrees out the heated seats were a nice bonus!
GASP! An insurance scam between the adjusters and the shops that drives all our premium rates up over the years???
I'm SHOCKED I tell 'ya... SHOCKED!!!
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Rodger, here is what you do.Find a guy like me who has experience in rebuilds. I have done hundreds of them.I got out of doing them when the so called Russians got into builders about ten years back. They ruined my business.Right now as we speak I'm building one for a girl that did the very same thing you just did.Front on a newer mustang.I told her father I would hang the sheet metal, put a new core support on and align any thing like front rails. Five hundred bucks. Side job Come in early sat. morning knock it out quick.I still have my own frame rack Black Hawk laser alignment for pulling them back to specs. I'm doing everything but the paint.I could do that too, but we have a painter where I work. Are ya following me? There's a whole bunch of guys like me who like to pick up side money, and the work is the same, only below wholesale.Just hang around one of the shops at quitting time, or place an ad.It's a win win.
ozaob By the way, they bought their Mustang back for a thousand
Oh! never have Russians, or Koreans do collision repair, period!
The new 2009 car probably has updated-better safety features ...
Glad everyone is uninjured, car did it's thing.
Heated seats... MMMmmmmmmmmmmmyessss!
So glad the lovely MoSup is okey-dokey *with* lovely warm seats.
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