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Awesome, let Chicago be the first to loose their rights. They inflicted their scourge on the rest of the US.
When I was stationed in Yuma, there were lots of bikers walking around with a hogs leg strapped on. Never saw one mugged at an ATM.
I want to buy a handgun, Arizona has one weird law though. I'm old enough to buy a gun from say, my parents or my parents friend. Or just some guy selling one. I can legally buy a handgun. But I can't legally buy a handgun from a licensed dealer. Go figure. I also can own a handgun, but I can't buy the ammo for it.
My only option is a .22, and to say that I'm buying rifle rounds. Pretty rediculous. I've been shooting rifles and handguns since I was 4 years old. I'm about the most careful and safest damn person anyone could ever meet around firearms.
Add Idaho to the list of no-license Open Carry states.
Idaho's gun laws are one reason my wife convinced me to move here... though any excuse to leave the Soviet of Maryland was enough for me.
Thanks Scott ... I just did add Idaho, it slipped by me. The two that surprise me the most - by not allowing - are Texas and Florida. Also, the first (and only) place I witnessed a guy publicly packing was in Denver, and now I see it's exempted from Colorado's open carry position.
Maryland's gun laws and general Commieness was a big reason I moved to PA.
To clarify PA's rules, carry on school property and government buildings is verboten. Courthouses and such must provide a place to store them while inside, meaning you can walk in armed but will need to hand it over while inside. I don't find that unreasonable, but the prohibition on school property is. Faculty, administrators, and custodians (i.e., anybody who has every good reason to be there) should be allowed.
Annoyed White Male
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While open carry is technically legal, that doesn't mean it's a good idea. If you don't have a half-decent reason, don't. You'll make us look bad. It will attract law enforcement attention and label you as a trouble maker. Unless you are making a show intentionally to exercise your legal freedom and "educate" the police on the law, keep it out of sight. It's too easy to get a CCW in most of those states.
AWM
Open carry means "shoot me first."
Carry concealed, people. It doesn't scare the citizenry, and it doesn't make the gendarmes wonder what you're up to... and you can go armed even where it's prohibited, if you can keep a secret.
—DougM
AWM - we're talking "Open Carry WITHOUT A PERMIT" No registration required. That seems to me a most basic principle guaranteed by the Second Amendment.
It should be as simple as "open carry is legal", but there are plenty of exceptions, even in states that allow it.
Some are obvious: courthouses, schools, etc... Some are not. Restaurants, places which serve alcohol, college campuses. These all vary by state. And don't get me started on car carry.
here's a good guide to carry laws.
I get it Rog, I was just clarifying existing PA law. Yes, you can open carry in PA without a permit. Yes, if you walk into a bank or mall doing so, you will likely end up with guns pointed at you, and it might not be cops doing it. You can explain the law to the police while you're face down in cuffs if you want. If a cop wants to teach you a lesson he'll throw something like disturbing the peace at you even if he knows it won't stick.
A different situation would be, say, walking you dog in a rural park area. It's far less likely to upset onlookers and a lot easier to justify should they call 911.
PA cops are pretty good about the general issue of weapons and know the law, but might still ruin your day if you're being an ass. You can carry a machete in PA if you have some reason to do so, but a double-edged blade can only be used as a weapon and a 3 inch one can get you in trouble. Can I be in a rural public park with an 8" Gerber BMF on one hip and a Browning HP on the other? Yes. Try that in a Philly 'burb and see what happens. Take the number of a lawyer, too.
AWM
Rockville and all'y'all,
That purty, busty beauty on the Carry Laws site is one of Oleg Volks favorite models...Texan Lori:
http://olegvolk.net/gallery/friendsandstrangers/lori/
He's one helluva lucky cuss!
An armed society is a polite society.
Javert
Lemme say this, given our family's experience, Philadelphia is one city you should never visit without carrying - in your hand.
Louisiana is an open carry state.
You can open carry in certain parts of Kalifornia, as long as the weapon is unloaded
http://caopencarry.blogspot.com/
This is why I was born, currently live and will die here in the Republic of Texas.
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/SOTWDocs/PE/htm/PE.46.htmTexas Penal Code, Chapter 46 Section 2. You CAN carry a loaded weapon in your car, as long as it's concealed. But I'm still going to get my CHL, just for shits & grins.
New Mexico is also a no license open carry state. http://www.dps.nm.org/lawEnforcement/ccw/ccwFaq.php - Skyhawker Doug
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I see nothing in the source listed about LA making the list.
NM slipped by, I think because I wasn't looking for this type of endorsement.
"New Mexico has an "extended domain" law, which means that a person's vehicle is considered an extension of their home. It is therefore legal to carry a loaded firearm without a permit, openly or concealed, anywhere in a vehicle.[151][152] On foot, no permit is required to carry a firearm unless it is both loaded and concealed."
I added NM. Need a law citation for LA.
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IN many states a CCP prevents you from open carry. In Kansas if you have a CCW and you open carry you can be arrested. That was told me straight from the local CCP instructor who is also on the local PD.
Since my current side arm selection does not include anything easily concealed, I'm not going to bother with a CCW.
Some years back I kept a pistol on the seat of my car because of recurring problems with a certain neighbor. One night I was stopped by the local patrol. On first approach, he shown his light directl on my loaded pistol but said nothing. When he returned with the warning ticket, he suddenly noticed it and went banannas.
After a brief but polite verbal exchange, I unloaded the gun and placed it on the dash.
After that he asked me why in blue blazes I was toting a 44 magnum arround. When I named the problem person his next question was if I had a good supply of ammo to ensure the dirt bag was good and dead.
The next day I got a call from the sheriff and was told to have my ass at the next range day for the local police. I gladly attended.
Over the next three years my dirt bag neighbor was arrested five or six times. I was present for four of them. His last trip to county would have gotten him a permanent stay in Coalinga if this were Kaliphoneya.
Weapons tend ot get the law excited. Since most of the time the ones packing heat are thugs, they tend to react as if anyone with a gun is a thug. If you want to carry open, make sure you know the locals. It will make your life and theirs a lot easier.
JeremyR
As a resident of Texas, I carry a 38 Special in the console of my truck. Why? Because I can.
I don't think Wisconsin belongs on your list.
Despite the clear wording of the law, those who carry openly are still arrested, and no the cops are definitely ignorant of the law.
In the following case, they chose to arrest the carrier for disorderly conduct-- apparently that consisted of his being correct when he told the cops he was allowed to openly carry.
Now Ok, he was found not guilty. He was still arrested, mugshotted, fingerprinted, jailed, bailed, charged, arraigned and tried.
And then had to wait to get his gun back.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/39722082.html
So of course the issue is back in the courts as we again beg government to allow us to exercise our 'rights.'
http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/43074132.html
In NC open carry is legal by omission... the state has no law against it thus it is legal... there are allowances for municipalities to enact their own bans on city property and at least one city has a city wide ban on open carry... but i open carry all the time without incident.
You probably want to take WA off that list.
Open carry is legal, but "alarming" someone with a firearm is not.
So, if some leftard calls the police because you alarm them, you get arrested.
that's prolly isolated - I think there's mention of it in the source listing. Anyway, it's no reason to cede the actual law to pasty faced lawbreakers.
Really appreciate the research, the comments and links. Just a couple more thoughts:
- having had a few years of commissioned service in the Army, I work hard not to make life hard for the first term private, the new TSA screener or the cop working traffic duty. They have a hard enough job sorting out the crazies and enforcing the law without me giving them something else to worry about.
- agree that open carry is rarely a good idea, just trying to figure out the mechanics of keeping guns and ammo in the city. We're not normally at risk, but we're in the prime evacuation corridor for D.C., and I want to make sure that my wife and I have a better than average chance of making it to our WV bunker if we need to E&A
- I am glad a lot of folks carry, and I think we'd be a lot safer if places like DC encouraged concealed carry for people with formal training in the use of deadly force (especially current and former lawmen and military.) However, in fifteen years in my corner of northern Virgina I have not been in a situation where a concealed hand gun would have been useful. Call me boring, but that's just not where I hang out
- had I known the Real King of France was going to be intrigued, I'd have tried to come up with a more clever nom de plume