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What I am going to need after the Republican Party blazes out in the divine wind of conservative purity.
The Kamikaze is made of two to one parts Vodka, Triple Sec and lemon juice. According to the International Bartenders Association, it is served straight up in a cocktail glass.
Make that three parts.
Bobby Ahr
I suppose we could have McCain stuffed like Trigger. We could even put him in the same museum.
I come here mostly for the jokes and funny pictures but I feel compelled to ask the readers if they're more interested in ousting Umbama or achieving political purity regardless of who runs the country for the next four years. At least.
Up front I find the "purity wins elections" line hysterical and proves how the far left and far right are two sides of the same coin.
Well seeing as how we've had REgressive purity pretty much for the last 100 years in the form of either liberals(democrats) or liberal lite(Republicans) I think I'd to try some conservative purity.
And I'm talking Conservative purity that out does RR and actually reduces the size of government.
Because if that's what us Tea Partiers really want, the likes of Boehner and McCain with their "reach across the aisle" BS has got to go.
MM
What MM said, but here:
Q. Why do Duke graduates hang their diplomas from their rear view mirror?
A. So they can use handicapped parking.
The fear from the left in these thread comments tastes awesome.
It ain't about purity, retards. It's about not being a fucking liberal Democrat pretending to be an R, and winning the elections.
The anon comment that 'the far left and far right are two sides of the same coin' is asinine. The 'puriy' that he decries is having pricipals and sticking to them and not being moderate to get along. As the great Rush Limbaugh says 'conservatism wins every time
its tried.' The revolution coming is the Tea Party. The people are tired of government trying to run their lives.
Tim
Some may not be aware, but a half century ago, William F. Buckley and Whittacre Chambers had the same discussion. Buckley argued the purist side, and Chambers wisely pointed out that at the end of the game there are only two sides, and one must pick one.
While I'm a purist at heart, I will vote for the devil with the R beside his name. I want sixty seats in the Senate, and a purist element within the party to drive wholesale impeachment of federal judges. That's the way our system works. You can't get what you want, but sometimes, you get what you need. Apologies to Mick.
Casca
"there are only two sides, and one must pick one." and we are stuck tossing out the obvious RINOs and trying to to replace them with "clone" RINOS. That problem has to be dealt with at the local party level.
Until we take control of the party and the selection process at the local and state levels we will always be presented with RINO nominees. A primary challenge is a good thing. Talking control at a level where RINO's never get off the ground is even better.
Some state level Tea Party folks have figured this out and are starting to run for party positions that have never been challenged. There are some real power struggles going on way down in the trenches that will take some time to play out. In the mean time, never cut off your nose to spite your face. Never give indirect support to the other side by "staying home" cause your guy wasn't selected this time..
The adults are slowly getting back in charge. I just hope we have time.
Take a look around...
how's that "that's the way our system works" taste? Been workin' real fine, eh?
*spit*
I have yet to meet a liberal/progressive that spends their money like they spend my money. It think it's because they're self-serving puke-shit bastards. It's either that, or they're lying thieves. At this point, I really don't think it matters.
Sarah could run for Speaker.
There's no constitutional requirement that the Speaker be a congressrat.
Well anon, when you're ready to put a round in the chamber, and take return fire, let me know. Until then, this is how we win.
Casca
Both the Democrats and Republicans consort with Big Business to feather their own nests (with other people's money). Democrats are just more redistributionist. That is what Sarah calls crony capitalism. There is no way to achieve conservative purity and immediate implementation of a conservative agenda. Dictatorships have been tried elsewhere but they don't deliver. I would not recommend that course. Dictators have a history of eventually hijacking the original intent for their own ends. Casca is right wait for the system to work, if conservatives are in the majority (and they will be as long as things stay this bad) a few election cycles should change things. As Echo18 said above I just hope we have the time, and the voters are not too corrupted.
Luigi Palmieri
Yeah, vote for the party. That worked so good before, when Bush was in and the Republicans had all the power. What did we get? Crapola! Stick to your guns and vote for real conservatives instead of the good ol' boy, Republican method. Repeat after me, No more RINO's, No More RINO's!!!
Jinglebob:
What works is joining your county republican organization, and supporting conservative nominations inside the party. The county committees decide who gets nominated to state offices for the most part, and a national candidate ain't getting a nomination without them.
What doesn't work is staying at home on your ass, and then threatening to hold your breath until you turn blue because other folks who actually did the hard political work chose a candidate you didn't like.
If you don't help with the work, you don't get a say until the election itself.
In 2000, there was no Tea Party, and ditto for 2002, 2004 and 2006.
It took the election of 2008 to make the conservatives aware that their voice was being given lip service and that actually getting out into the streets, parks and malls was required.
If you consider how well the R, perhaps RINO, team has done, given the MSM is in the tank, the "colleges" are larded with liberal profs, the education system is staffed with liberal minions, and almost all lawyers are liberal and almost all CongressPersons are lawyers, you must realize there are enough conservative voters to elect conservative candidates.
Conservatives have won even with nothing supporting them except the Tea Party. No MSM, RNCC, etc.
There are a lot of us out here, and we can win, but we must use the primary system to oust the RINOs.
tomw