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Wednesday, November 30, 2011
Newt Mesmerizes - But ...
30 comments:
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Robert said...
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If Mickey Mouse were the Republican running against Obama, I would endorse and support Mickey Mouse.
Unfortunately, Mickey isn't running, and we are left with who we have.
While I prefer Perry, I will vote for whichever Republican survives the nominating process, even if it's Newt. -B -
11/30/11, 8:38 PM
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Anonymous said...
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I determined long ago (about 3 years) that I will never vote holding my nose again. I've been piled on by several of my friends for that position. I will. not. do. it. They play the "then you can't complain when Obama wins" card, as if I'll still bother. If we have this much trouble getting a Conservative through the primaries after four years of Obamaunism, all is already lost.
Very high on the list of people I will never vote for under any circumstances is Gingrich.
Another thing: the primaries haven't even started yet, and Romney and Gingrich are both already acting like it's all over. Not yet, it isn't. Those two are gonna get a taste of what the Dems got last year. They might win, but Conservatives are going to make them fight for it.
AWM -
11/30/11, 9:36 PM
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wmprof said...
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"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting an inexperienced man like him with the presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."
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11/30/11, 11:30 PM
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renojim said...
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I'm with AWM. I'm fed up with being given a choice between this big government ahole and that big government ahole. Newt, although admittedly brilliant, is yet another cookie cutter, silver spooned, big government ahole. If he's the candidate, I won't vote, because there's no difference between him and whoever the left props up in front of the camera. The results at the end of his term will be the same.
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11/30/11, 11:45 PM
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Chris in NC said...
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Damn, he can give a great speech though. Wow that was good.
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12/1/11, 12:26 AM
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Gayle Miller said...
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Not voting IS a vote and a shirking of your responsibility as an American citizen. It also strips you of the right to bitch about the new president at will. So vote - and if you don't like what Newt does, then you still have the right to complain about him.
And the presidential campaign debates will be worth the irritation! Newt will eviscerate The Anointed One! -
12/1/11, 1:01 AM
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Anonymous said...
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Wow! So much to reply to. I'll just note that most of you folks voted for McRINO last time. Can any of you say that any of the current candidates are any less deserving of your vote?
Of course, you could always join AWM and myself and vow to never again vote with a clothes pin on your nose. I don't buy into the if-you-didn't-vote-you-can't-complain argument but as far as I'm concerned, not voting just isn't an option. If you don't like the Republican there are always more options besides the Donk. I believe I voted for Bob Barr last time. Pick the best person running and vote for them - electability be damned. Voting for somebody else says to the major parties, "You guys suck!" Not voting says, "I don't count." You can still complain, but you don't count.
GrinfilledCelt -
12/1/11, 3:17 AM
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Anonymous said...
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Then there's this:
For Your Vote
by Newt and the Yardbirds
For your vote.
For your vote.
For your vote.
I'd give you everything and more, and that's for sure.
For your vote.
I'd bring you diamond rings and things right to your door.
For your vote.
To thrill you with delight,
I'll give you diamonds bright.
There'll be things that will excite,
To make you dream of me at night.
For your vote.
For your vote.
For your vote.
For your vote, for your vote,
I would give the stars above.
For your vote, for your vote,
I would give you all I could.
For your vote.
For your vote.
For your vote.
I'd give the moon though it isn't mine to give.
For your vote.
I'd give the stars and the sun 'fore I live.
For your vote.
To thrill you with delight,
I'll give you diamonds bright.
There'll be things that will excite,
To make you dream of me at night.
For your vote.
For your vote.
For your vote.
For your vote.
GrinfilledCelt -
12/1/11, 3:31 AM
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Anonymous said...
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"If you don't vote you lose your right to bitch"
Really? You believe that lame old democrap meme? I suppose that means since I didn't vote for BO I can't bitch about him? How about, if your guy loses in the primary you lose your vote in the final?
Ever work a campaign? Ever worked a polling place? Ever run for office (even if it was just HOA board)?
This isn't the country some of you think it is. And over the next year you're going to understand that. -
12/1/11, 8:08 AM
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Anonymous said...
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Newt is for big guv because he offhandedly opined that FDR deserved to be on Mt Rushmore with Reagan?
As for all of you, I'm-not-voting-if-I-can't-have-things-my-way types, you're petulant children. Grow up.
Finally, it's not about voting for the best man, or we'd all be voting for Rodger. It's about voting for the best man who can win.
Casca -
12/1/11, 9:16 AM
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Anonymous said...
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Casca, do you have any "minimum standards"? Just curious...
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12/1/11, 9:59 AM
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Juice said...
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What wmprof quoted. Libs/Progs keep feeding the monkeys to vote for them. But,
Reps had majority in both houses during Clinton and pissed it away with their spineless mediocrity. They actually allowed that idiotic complaint from Peloso-Reid, ..."what about minority rights?" to fly. -Because- they were a do nothing majority they got ousted and that led to Pelosi-Reid-Obama today. Romney? PUKE! Newt? became the Lion-ess. GW was a pussy on domestic issues. I voted for GW twice because he was leagues ahead of any Lib candidate.
McCAin stank like a stagnant pond when I voted for him. So... In the end, guess it will be the same this election. Unless, of course, an actual TEA Party candidate makes to the final round. But that brings us straight back to the confederacy of fools now, doesn't it? -
12/1/11, 11:05 AM
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Anonymous said...
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If he's not full of crap, this guy would make a good president. Unfortunately, I sadly fear he's full of crap.
MichigammeDave -
12/1/11, 11:24 AM
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Anonymous said...
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I've been a conservative for forty years. William F. Buckley Jr was my Godfather. The National Review was once a place to go for clarity of thought in a time of confusion. Now we have Limbaugh.
I knew McCain was a self-interested asshole uncommitted to any over-arching political philosophy from the beginning. The party is full of these people, but there are as many committed conservatives.
Newt has been the victim of many slanders. Unlike the rest of us, he's made mistakes in his personal life. What I know for a fact about Newt is that he is a constitutionalist, that he was elected as a Republican Rep from Georgia back when you didn't get elected as a Republican in Georgia, that through the force of his personality and hard work gave us the first Republican House in three generations. I thought that I'd never see that in my lifetime. He set that house on a course to fulfill it's conservative commitments to the voters, and because of that the politicians in the party along with the Clintons and the media drove him from the stage. How do you think Hastert came about? The hogs wanted to feed, and Newt was an obstacle.
The modern Newt is a man tempered by experience. I can't imagine anyone better for the job. He's not Reagan, but he is of the Reagan Revolution. He may very well be something better.
Casca -
12/1/11, 11:32 AM
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Anonymous said...
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For a second opinion, there's this:
http://pjmedia.com/blog/four-reasons-why-conservatives-should-oppose-newt-gingrich/ -
12/1/11, 1:30 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Gingrich also deserves credit for working with President Clinton to pass welfare reform, and some credit for the balanced budgets that existed prior to 9/11.
Lie #1, Newt deserves ALL of the credit for reforming the welfare system. Clinton fought him the whole way, and few others helped. William Jefferson Blythe deserves credit for the wisdom of signing the bill when Newt held the political gun to his head, and Morris told Blythe that either his signature or his political brains would be on it. As for the balanced budgets, does anyone in their fucking right mind think that ANY democrat had ANYTHING to do with those budgets? It's a huge gold star for Newt. Newt was the obstacle to deficit spending. -
12/1/11, 2:30 PM
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Anonymous said...
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I can't go on, it's too tediously stupid, and one need go no further in reading Adam Graham's piece reposted at Pajamas Media. He has an AA degree from Flathead Valley Community College, and he's probably about thirty. He has no memory of these events, and he's regurgitating something he learned at the community college. Now I remember why I don't fisk stuff anymore.
Casca -
12/1/11, 2:43 PM
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Anonymous said...
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It's my guess that Anon is part of an Army of paid Romney shills assigned to troll the web and dispense lies against his opponents. I guess it's part of our political process now
Casca -
12/1/11, 2:58 PM
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Anonymous said...
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After reading all the above comments for and against Newt, I have to say that, if the election were held today, I would vote for Newt in a heartbeat. Newt has forgotten more about government and the way it operates than The Komrade President REMF will ever, in his wildest dreams, know.
As for the guy who said, above, that if his candidate isn't nominated, then he won't vote. That is precisely the defeatist attitude that will get Komrade REMF reelected.
If, and only if, Romney is the nominee next fall then I will have to vote for him with my nose pinched firmly shut. At this stage of the process, I believe that Romney as nominee will just about ensure that Komrade REMF will be reelected, unless, of course, something radically changes between now and next November.
Scottiebill -
12/1/11, 3:05 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Isn't it amazing how they've managed to spin the most unelectable Republican (Romney), as the most electable?
I was reading a Newt piece the other day where he said that he was the only candidate who could unite foreign policy conservatives, fiscal conservatives, and social conservatives. I think that's true. It's also straight out of the Reagan playbook. For those who can't remember, that's exactly what he did.
Casca -
12/1/11, 3:29 PM
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Anonymous said...
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With no Sarah , Newt is the best I see . FAR BETTER THAN 4 MORE YEARS . SMIBSID
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12/1/11, 8:52 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Broad range of reactions. I'll add this: if the GOP knows most of us will hold our noses and vote for a RINO we don't like because it's slightly better than the other twerp, that's what our best option will be. Instead we need to hold their feet to the fire an make a loud DAMMIT, NO! You don't get my vote, NOT YOURS unless you run somebody I can at least mostly support. It's the only way to make them change.
As for Gayle who claimed it would be "shirking of your responsibility as an American citizen" by not voting, this. I have no citizen responsibility to vote for someone I can't stand just to be able to say I voted. Do you say I must vote even then, even when all my options suck, or I'm not a good citizen? I strongly disagree. If you got paid even if you didn't show up for work, would you? That's how your boss forces you to show up- if you don't, you don't get the goodies. As long as the GOP knows they get the votes without having to do anything to please Conservatives, they won't change.
The GOP doesn't get my "payment" anymore until they show up and start working for me. It is my right to withhold payment when someone doesn't deliver.
My responsibility is larger than voting, it's to preserve the nation and the Constitution. If I see withholding my support as the best way to do that, by God that's what I'll do.
Annoyed White Male -
12/1/11, 9:42 PM
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Anonymous said...
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The threat of four more years of Obamunism will NOT get me to the polls. It's hard to believe, but there are even bigger dangers than that.
In addition, getting a decent candidate shouldn't be so hard under these conditions. The fact that it is may be a sign that it's already too late.
AWM -
12/1/11, 9:47 PM
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Jinglebob said...
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This is just a history lesson and nothing can change it. I thought it timely on the day after Barney Frank announced he will retire
The day the Democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009. It was actually January 3rd 2007, the day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of the 110th Congress.
The Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.
For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is "Bush's Fault", think about this:
January 3rd, 2007, the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress:
The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
The Unemployment rate was 4.6%
George Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION!
Remember that day...
January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House
Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking
Committee. The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what
part of the economy?
BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!
THANK YOU DEMOCRATS (especially Barney ) for taking us from 13,000 DOW,
3.5 % GDP and 4.6% Unemployment...to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things)
dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie
Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES!
(BTW: Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie -starting in
2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy). Barney blocked it
and called it a "Chicken Little Philosophy" (and the sky did fall!)
And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac?
OBAMA
And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?
OBAMA and the Democrat Congress, especially BARNEY!!!!
So when someone tries to blame Bush...
REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007.... THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!"
Bush may have been in the car but the Democrats were in charge of the gas
pedal and steering wheel they were driving the economy into the ditch.
Budgets do not come from the White House.. They come from Congress and the
party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democratic Party.
Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 & 2009 as
well as 2010 & 2011.
In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them
to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on
spending increases.
For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely,
passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama
could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill
to complete the 2009 budget.
And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very
Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the
omnibus bill as President to complete 2009. Let's remember what the deficits
looked like during that period:
If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the last of
the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the
fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in
Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted
for the budgets.
If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself.
In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is "I inherited a deficit that I voted
for, and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th."
There is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it
on! -
12/1/11, 9:52 PM
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Anonymous said...
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"you could always join AWM and myself and vow to never again vote with a clothes pin on your nose."
How about we go to the polls wearing clothespins on our noses as a visible form of protest? -
12/1/11, 10:09 PM
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Anonymous said...
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"How about we go to the polls wearing clothespins on our noses as a visible form of protest?" I thought about that. The poll workers would consider it a political statement and require you to remove them. Besides, one of those things on your nose is seriously uncomfortable. Try it and see.
Casca, since you don't like lairs, is there any politician you could vote for?
GrinfilledCelt -
12/1/11, 11:47 PM
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Anonymous said...
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I adhere to Twain's observation that there are only two kinds of people, liars, and damned liars. That Graham fellow, and the Anon, who may be one and the same, are of the latter variety.
Actually, there are many honest people in politics. Certainly Bachman and Santorum are absolutely squeaky. Paul is honest, that's how we know he's a kook. In fact, I'd have a hard time finding a real liar on our side. I don't consider McCain and Lindsey Graham on our side. Most damned liars are quite at home in the other party.
As for holding one's nose. I've dealt with you paragons of virtue all my life, and you're all spiteful petulant children. Humanity is flawed. Unless you're going to elect Jesus Christ, there's no one good enough for you.
The litmus tests are simple: Where does he stand on the life issue. Is he a constitutionalist? Is he a patriot? Does he understand the world we live in?
Casca -
12/2/11, 8:55 AM
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Anonymous said...
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Well, nobody asked, but I'll toss in my two cents worth.
I think that NOT voting because you don't find the candidate as meeting your standards is equivalent to cutting off your nose to spite your face. What will you get as your 'reward' for being 'honorable'? Four more years of destructive policy? Four years of veto pen work? Four years of Harry Reid mumbling and whining about his persimmon(?) tree that is Soooo lonely out there in Searchlight?
Newt usta was either my Rep or the one next door, as I was ignurant at that point about politics. When I heard his Contract, I was jazzed. He actually DID SOMETHING. He po'd his buddies, and had a wimp as the R Senate guy --- Mr Cheerleader from MS followed by the Doc that didn't want to PO any body - Mr GoAlong TOGetalong. He realized he had done all he could, and would be the favorite target of the opposition, drawing fire, and enabling them to say 'it's all Newts fault'... he left behind swill and catastrophe... Just as the JerkInChief now blames it all on "W". He got out of town. Made me mad, but I do understand today.
He's not perfect, but Willard just doesn't get it. He is NOT himself when in campaign mode. There's a layer or aura around him that fuzzes his personality. I would swear that we don't know him at all and that is by design. NOT that he has any bad motives, but I think that being Mormon, you have to have a 'public persona' and a 'private persona' which by definition blurs our image. "WE" don't trust him because we don't 'know' him. His public service record to date is nothing to write home about. These are the reasons he doesn't get above 25% in the polls no matter who is his leading opponent. I think he would do the same as W did, and not fire back when taking hits. Newt, OTOH, would not only fire back, but would make the mud-slingers take notice that he won't tolerate their shenanigans.
But, this is just my opinion.
tomw -
12/2/11, 9:59 AM
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Anonymous said...
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Well said, Tom. Here's a return to yesteryear. People forget how he used to be the only one in front of the CSPAN cameras in the empty gallery because we had no voice in the media. They forget how he ran Jim Wright out of the house, and how the dems took revenge on him for doing so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PSqcaAQti4g
Casca -
12/2/11, 11:29 AM
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Anonymous said...
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Now this arrogant ass claims it's a sure thing that he will be the nominee! We haven't had a single primary! There is NO WAY I will vote for him!
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/gingrich-tells-abc-news-im-going-to-be-the-nominee/?wpisrc=nl_pmfix
I'm not cutting off my nose to spite my face. I stated my reasoning already. I need the Repubs to understand they can't run just anybody that isn't Obama and expect me to vote for him or her. If all Conservatives did that, they'd be forced to pick a better candidate.
Let's turn this around, shall we? Many think my refusing to vote for "not Obama" will guarantee an Obama victory. Bullshit. I submit the Repubs nominating yet ANOTHER 30+year Washington career, Democrat-loving, illegal alien supporting, global warming True Believer will do that. It won't my fault, it will be THEIRS.
AWM -
12/2/11, 1:03 PM
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