Saturday, April 21, 2012

Universal Black Boxes To Compliment Universal Spy Drones


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Universal Black Boxes To Compliment
Universal Spy Drones




Res Ipsa Loquitur


A recently passed bill will require all cars to come
equipped with
"black boxes" that record vehicle data. These Event Data Recorders
(EDR), similar to their airplane counterparts, will record data such as
speed, brake force and electrical systems monitoring. The days of a car
crash being one driver's word against another look to be history.




Senate Bill 1813 (known as Map-21) mandates that automakers install
EDRs in all new vehicles starting in 2015. The bill was recently passed
and is expected to be approved by the (Republican controlled) 
House
(WTF?) .



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Res Ipsa Loquitur




 Does it?  That's right.  GAH!

14 comments:

Kristophr said...

And a new industry is borne ... disabling data recording in black boxes.

Google "remove EDR".

The problem is that the EDR also is responsible for deploying the airbags. I would suggest locking up or moving the vehicle data port, and putting stickers on it and the EDM forbidding access without permission or a warrant.

If you can't get rid of the damned thing without killing your airbags, then at least deny officials legal access to the data.

Anonymous said...

The National Transportation Safety Board recently divulged they had already funded a project with the U.S. auto makers for the past five years, whereby the auto makers were installing black box voice recorders in pick-up trucks.
This was done in an effort to determine, when accidents occured, the circumstances in the last 15 seconds before the crash. They were surprised to find in most of the states the last words of drivers in 61.2 percent of crashes were, "Oh, Shit".
Only in the south was it different, where 89.3 percent of the final words were:
"Hold my beer and watch this!"
Tim

Anonymous said...

Lose EDR and lose airbags too? That sounds like a double win to me. A federally mandated 'safety' device that requires a big yellow warning sticker on your visor to explain how many ways the explosive device in your dashboard can kill you NEEDS to be turned off. Wear your seat belt, dumba$$.

JJ

I-RIGHT-I said...

"The National Transportation Safety Board recently divulged they had already funded a project with the U.S. auto makers for the past five years"

The boxes have been installed in all American autos since at least '05. That's why I bought the Nissan Titan instead of the GM pickup. The fact is and I'm open for correction that just about everything on 4 tires already has the box.

It looks to me that the only difference between now and then is that our Fearless Leaders have mandated the device leaving the car manufactures to pay for it themselves.

What ever happened to the "if they are in they are out" mantra from the Right?

How many times have I mentioned that the Republicans are in this up to their necks and do different from the Donks? Romney? If you can't tell just by looking at him he's a GOP fluffer boy then you just haven't been paying attention.

We are so screwed.

I-RIGHT-I said...

Wear your seat belt, dumba$$.

JJ


Lot's of luck when you get T-Boned numbnuts.

TimO said...

Can we at least have the option of finding via blackboxes the people who drive like assholes and have them taken out with the armed UAVs?????

Anonymous said...

I did a bunch of research for a ook I'm writing, and I hate to say it, I-Right, but all Nissans have EDRs too, including the Titan.

EDRs are mandated for all autos and trucks built in North America and some S. American ones (Brazil). Japanese cars all have them, and have since 1999.

The key is not the EDRs themselves, but the degree to which they can be modified to track your movements, record voices and manage the cars' engines (e.g. governing speeds, etc).

The only manufacturers/models which do not have the "sophisticated" EDRs are those models imported by Porsche, Renault, VW, Audi and Opel. (Locally-made models have to have them.)

More on request.

Anonymous said...

Erry rental car has 'em. In case of an accident, they'll know your speed and other details. So...just sayin'
oy vey ole'

Wabano said...

Well, that's going to make for interesting recordings...

For instance, cockpit voice recorders...there's also a GPWS,
or ground proximity warning
device that yell when the radio
altimeter detect the ground
raising too fast: "TERRAIN! TERRAIN! PULL UP! PULL UP!"
It scream!
Well, that one Iberia flight had
the beaner crew yell right back
one day: "CAGA LA, GRINGO DE
MIERDA!!!"

then CRASH...recorded the black
box voice recorder which is painted red...

I-RIGHT-I said...

Uh oh.


"In fact, the data reveals that women are twice as likely to accidentally hit the accelerator than men are.

The study looked at police data on crashes that occurred within North Carolina and at news reports on accidents that happened elsewhere. And in cases of unintended acceleration, women were at fault roughly 66% of the time."

http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2012/04/20/women-are-twice-as-likely-to-hit-the-gas-by-mistake/

I-RIGHT-I said...

"I hate to say it, I-Right, but all Nissans have EDRs too"

Dmnit, you're right. The only question is what events are recorded in the '05 model EDR. Evidently they units have been getting more sophisticated each model year. The owners manual is supposed to detail that but all mine says is that it's got one and that "sounds are not recorded". Of course that probably means that sounds are recorded.

leelu said...

Kristopher,

Don't know that no air bags is necessarily a bad thing??

Kristophr said...

I'd want to disassemble one from a junk yard, and find the flash memory on the damned thing.

And take a dremel tool to that.

Anonymous said...

T-bone me in my 7.3l diesel 8000 lb 4wd Excursion and see who needs airbags. My late dumba$$ brother refused to wear seat belts. Air bags were no help.

JJ

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