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Saturday, February 24, 2007
Democrat grads v. Republican grads
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Anonymous said...
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My degrees are in chemistry and English. Intuitively, I don't see how humans aren't warming up the planet. Knowing that it may not all be anthropomorphic: cosmic rays and bovine flatulence are my two current fav alternate theories.
The key questions: How bad is it? Should we do anything about it? How much of our limited resources should we apply toward a correction?
Personally, I remember the energy shortages of the Carter years. Conservation is a reflex with me (not to be confused with conservatism). Be more than happy to see the Saudi's drown in their own oil.
Bring on the nukes. Three Mile Island may have been the costliest industrial accident ever. -
2/24/07, 1:08 PM
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Anonymous said...
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I agree with Alear. Mine are in English and electronics. My skepticism centers more on direct observation, however, than on science: this planet we inhabit is frakin huge, man.
Having flown across both Pac and Lant ponds several times, having crossed them several times on surface ships, and having flown across ConUS muchas veces, my take is that we are like fleas on a goddam elephant. Our (United States) CO2 production isn't a respectable blip on the chart of what volcanoes, natural fires, and the mid-Atlantic ridge produce in any given year. In fact, combine Indian, Chinese, Japanese, and European emissions, and we're not even a major player. And methane? Good grief! The Gulf of Mexico, Caribbean, and Western tropical Atlantic produce more methane than all the animals (humans included) in North America.
Kyoto is merely a communist strategem to take money from American and European capitalists and flush it down the oubliette of third-world dictatorships and fly-by-night regimes. -
2/24/07, 3:02 PM
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Anonymous said...
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I read the other day that the large number of cattle these days are a major contributor to methane.OK lets blame that on human food needs.Now,before people came to North & South American,weren't there millions and millions of four legged animals living here,farting night and day?I'm thinking mainly of bison but there were many other breeds.I've tried to find a comparison chart online to NO avail.
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2/24/07, 3:53 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Eros, I love writing that makes me look up an unknown word, "oubliette", excellent.
Having lived through the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo at close proximity, I can verify man's miniscule status in the grand scheme of things. It seemed like the end of the world, for at least a week.
Casca -
2/24/07, 4:11 PM
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Bob Hawkins said...
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Well, my PhD is in atmospheric spectroscopy. My dissertation was about the effects of modeling errors on measurements of infrared absorption parameters.
The global warming models have some disturbing characteristics. For example, their output doesn't depend on their inputs. A few years ago, it was found that the value for sunlight absorbed by clouds was off by 600%. No visible change.
It was found that, due to a transcription error, the value for IR flux from water vapor was off by an amount equal to the increased IR flux from doubling CO2. Nada. How does that work? An error, equal in size to the whole effect that you're studying, does nothing, but the effect destroys the world?
This isn't even "Garbage In, Garbage Out." This is "Anything In, Same Old Garbage Out."
And that's only one problem. -
2/24/07, 6:02 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Bob - it sounds like they built a model that always gives the desired result. That's not a model; that's a rubber stamp that says "pay me" for more studies.
Lt. Col. Gen. Tailgunner dick -
2/24/07, 8:25 PM
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Anonymous said...
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Mr Hawkins, can you provide links to back up your assertions? I find them very interesting and would like to be able to share them with some friends who are unfortunately "True Believers".
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2/26/07, 12:33 PM
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