Monday, July 07, 2008

Obama's birth certificate

Conspiracy of Silence
This really may be the story of the 21st century, thus far.  Not the increasing likelihood that the presumptive presidential nominee of a major political party has engaged in a massive fraud that constitutes the defacto overthrow of our constitutional government, but the media nonchalance in light of it. 

We have Jay McKinnon who admits uploading other fraudulent Hawaii birth certificates to  Photobucket, with matching graphics DNA, at the same day, hour and minute as the Obama certificate, and nobody asks any questions (Israeli Insider aside)?   My God, even Putin has been forced to murder or jail media voices impertinent enough to question his goings-on  in Russia's crumbling democracy. Matt Drudge, who will headline crap like  Sex in Space 'Is Inevitable'...  has avoided it..  I've found precious few bloggers who show interest either.  One of the few exceptions is Atlas Shrugged, who went pro-active and found an expert. Snippets follow:
As a real forensic computer investigator (board certified, investigated thousands of cases, access to a full forensic computer lab, yadda yadda...) I decided to jump into the fray over the fake vs real discussion a week ago when a friend of mine challenged me to see what I could find (since according to him, the document was clearly a real one). He is what one would call a slightly rabid Obama supporter – he even has the tattoo to prove it.

Before I became a forensic geek I worked for [a herein nameless publicly traded company] that designed counterfeit detection hardware and software for the banking and retail industry. The company was very high profile and we received training from [a certain herein nameless department of the Federal government that knows a thing or two about counterfeiting] - but I do not claim to be an all around expert in Questioned Documents but after several years of working with them I do know what to look for to spot an obvious fake.

I caught a glimpse of what I and apparently everyone else had simply not noticed. The security borders do not match. Literally. They are not even close to identical.

I am convinced that the certificate is a fake (and not really a very good one)
 and I went into this with a completely open mind (something the Obamanationalists seem to have lost). I also have to say that everyone who has been looking into this federal crime (and it is a federal crime even if the certificates were never meant to be used for identification) have done a stupendous job and I wish they all worked for my lab. Talk about a winning team.


Well I have extensive experience in document printing myself, so let's throw into the mix how state agencies get their paper forms.

Printing is let to the lowest bidder.
 
The department's  purchasing agent will invite printers/ form distributors to bid on printing the certificate.  When integrity is a real issue, as in stock certificates, the printer may have to buy blanks from GOES, a Chicago lithograph company that provides top quality certificate blanks.  They're expensive, so I doubt a state agency would pay the money for them, but there are cheaper knockoffs out there that offer the same type of counterfeiting protection, i.e., they cannot be accurately duplicated by the offset press process that most forms are created by, let alone xerography  That doesn't prevent a winning bidder from trying, however.  It's a lot cheaper to produce a plate from a photograph of the original than it is to have new artwork created, even though details will be blurred and otherwise altered.

Suppose this happened with the Obama certificate. 
While that doesn't appear to be what happened here, intentional fabrication seems obvious, let's continue. Suppose his came from the cheesy produce of a fly-by-night vendor who took every cost cutting shortcut.  That could account for discrepancies found in the Obama and Decosta samples. 

The key to  answering this question is the consecutive document number that is inexplicably blacked out on Obama's.  Give me that number, and I can go through the Hawaii archives and see whether the certificates issued just before and after Obama's share the same DNA.  If, in the unlikely case that Hawaii doesn't keep a digital copy of what they send out, then there has to be an original birth document they used to verify his DOB that can be similarly checked.

Simple as that. That this wasn't done after the first alarm went off leads me to conclude that someone with political muscle, although not necessarily complicit in the original forgery, does now recognize the disastrous consequences for the Democratic party, of which Hawaii is in the thrall of, and is busy devising discovery blockers. With every passing day a "house cleaning" operation may be getting closer "making things right." We're looking at a nascent Kennedy assassination controversy here, not to mention a fraudulently elected government.  Only the Democrat party would be brazen enough to try and tough this out, in the knowledge that their media allies are as scared of the truth emerging as they.

UPDATE TO RAY'S ASSERTION
While I was doing this. Ray seems to have backed down on his statement that

"The reason the borders look different on the two certificates is because the non-Obama version has been greatly under-exposed in a graphics program to capture the detail of the seal which otherwise would be very hard to see. That's why the type is also much thicker."

Sorry Ray, I don't do this much work without
showing it. :)  The exposure would have nothing to do with the type seeming larger, and as you can see, even by blowing it up 10,000% there is no trace of the Obama pantograph.



27 comments:

Anonymous said...

If I were in the Clinton camp, I'd want this to pop two to three weeks before the convention. Were I in the McCain camp, I'd want it to blow up after the d's meet and select the Obamassiah.

Casca

Ray said...

The reason the borders look different on the two certificates is because the non-Obama version has been greatly under-exposed in a graphics program to capture the detail of the seal which otherwise would be very hard to see. That's why the type is also much thicker.

pdwalker said...

Ray, take the obama certificate and "under expose it" in any photo manipulation program you care to use.

What you will get will resemble nothing like the border on the second certificate.


As for myself, I'm wondering when the Clintons will jump all over it. Perhaps she's waiting until after Obama has paid her bills first?

Ray said...

pdwalker wrote:
"Ray, take the obama certificate and "under expose it" in any photo manipulation program you care to use.

What you will get will resemble nothing like the border on the second certificate."

Ok, I've done that and the type goes thicker as expected but it messes up the background, so it means only one thing -- that the non-Obama certificate was made with an entirely different set of artwork with a 'stippled' border (composed of circular or elliptical dots). That's why it looks so different. The Obama image has however been verified by the Health Dept in Hawaii as being "exactly the same" as what they use so there's no point in anyone arguing about the apparent flaws in the border.

Rodger the Real King of France said...

I did some work on this Ray, and posted it as an addendum.

Ray said...

rodger said:
"I did some work on this Ray, and posted it as an addendum."

Yes, I was mistaken. I took the dots for a moire pattern caused by the equivalent of under-exposure, but as I later said - it's actually a stipple.

I disagree about type not thickening. Type always thickens when under exposed, either photographically or by it's equivalent in a graphics program.

You might like to compare the "Smears" version of Obama's certificate with Kos's high quality version (after converting the Smears one to the same resolution of 300 ppi). They are a perfect match [Chop a bit off one of them so you can see the type line up]

Ray said...

Invisible seal:

I've conducted my own test and found the 'invisible' seal and the written certification by the Registrar. It's in exactly the same position on the page as was claimed by one of the bloggers, although my image is not as good.

I wasn't convinced it was really there until I actually found it myself.

Ray said...

=== FINDING THE INVISIBLE SEAL ===

Here's a scoop for your blog: I've just found a rough way to find the seal and certification by the Registrar in both of Obama's JPEG's (the 72ppi version on the Smears site and the 300 ppi version on Kos's site).

If anyone has Photoshop go ->
Menu/Image/Adjustments/Levels, then
grab the left slider which is directly *under the graph* and slide it all the way across to the right.

The seal is above the date and the registrars rubber stamp and signature is below the date almost touching the border.

Anonymous said...

Steve:

I just don't get it. Even if he was born in Kenya what difference would that make? His mom was an American. Yes I know she was young, but that makes no difference under the law.

And even if we can prove he was lying about where he was born, it will just make us pleased with ourselves. The media will not report it, or perhaps claim immediately that the story has been "discredited". Count on it.

We have to win this by voting.

Rodger the Real King of France said...

It matters because his underage mom does not meet the residency requirements that would allow her to pass U.S. citizenship to little Barry Hussein. You can be sure donk lawyers would fight this, but it would be a fight that would consume him.

As far as the documents go, I'm pretty much exhaused without having the actual documents. Let's start with these two questions.

1. Why has no "comtrolling authority" moved to settle this?

2. What does Jay McKinnon dumping several Haiaiian birth certificates in the same place, and same moment is Obama's was plucked by Kos (KOS!!) mean to you?

3. Why is the registration number blacked out?


Answer these questions, and that'll be that, one way or another.

Ray said...

It's a bit hard to even think of something as preposterous as Obama being born in Kenya or anywhere else besides Hawaii AND trying to conceal it, but if something ~was~ amiss then the law should prevail.

Let's look at the situation back in 1960-61. His mother-to-be went to Hawaii with her parents at about 16 years of age. She started at university, then some time later she met a young Kenyan man who had left Kenya after winning a scholarship to improve his life in the U.S.

There was little chance that such a man would be able to go back to Kenya with a pregnant girlfriend and face the people who paid for his trip to Hawaii plus his education expenses. He could hardly have paid for 4 plane tickets (2 each way) himself in 1961 because international travel by plane was extremely expensive. Most people wouldn't have even entertained the idea of travelling there by plane.

Then we have Obama's mother - why on earth would a girl who had just come from Kansas want to go to Kenya for - to have a baby there instead on in Hawaii?

Then there's the parents - would they allow her to get a passport and travel when they knew she needed to study and knew Kenya was a dangerous place because of all the rebels involved in warfare?

Two years after Obama was born his Kenyan father split from his mother andleft Hawaii and continued his university studies in Conecticut.

Obama's mother then took up with an Indonesian student but he had to return to Indonesia in 1967 after civil war became imminent. He was either ordered back or had his visa revoked by the U.S. That's the only reason they went there.

The whole story makes perfect sense, and all this stuff about birth certificate deceit complete nonsense.

Young Obama was quite proud of having an Ameican passport when he returned to Hawaii in 1971 according to one of his schoolfriends. He wouldn't have had it if he had not been born in the U.S.

The problem is NOT Obama's birth certificate - the real problem is a black man potentially becoming president. and people are grasping at straws.

I prefer Hillary myself because there' no other Democrats available. I'm no Obama fan because even though he's got a good front - that's all it appears to be - a front with no real substance.

Has anyone stopped to think how stupid it would be for Obama to deceive people about who he is when he's fund raising? It would be grand larceny -- and that's without him ever presenting his actual paper certificate to a soul.

Ray said...

Rodger wrote:

"1. Why has no "comtrolling authority" moved to settle this?

2. What does Jay McKinnon dumping several Haiaiian birth certificates in the same place, and same moment is Obama's was plucked by Kos (KOS!!) mean to you?

3. Why is the registration number blacked out?

Answers:
(1) Controlling authorities have already given Obama a special passport of very high value - which cannot be issued without the most extensive checking.

The media is not following it because it;s only a bunch of bloggers who haven't bothered to use logic as well as Photoshop.

(2) Kos ASKED the Obama team for a birth certificate and they gave it to him. They either gave him 2 JPEGS (72 ppi and 300 ppi) or just one aat 300 ppi and he made the lower grade one for his blog intro (with the larger one viewable by those who wanted it). Kos may well have made the low grade JPEG for the 'Smears' site to get them rolling.

Jay came along and just played a joke and basically SAID so at the time.

(3) There's nothing abnormal about blocking out an irrelevant certificate number. It's just a bit of privacy.





Answer these questions, and that'll be that, one way or another.

Anonymous said...

Ray, you programmed turkey, wtf? KOS asked Obama for a birth certificate? KOS? And the one he provided was then plucked off Photobucket? This thing stinks to high heaven, just like everything else about the Obamessiah. Go peddle your crap someplace else.

Anonymous said...

Some of us are avoiding it because it's retarded.

Rodger the Real King of France said...

"There's nothing abnormal about blocking out an irrelevant certificate number. It's just a bit of privacy.
"

Pretty lame Ray. What does that mean?. Privacy from what, Ray? It's also bizarre that Obama, after ignoring media requests would suddenly, without notice, post it for a (excuse me) world class commie crotch sniffer like KOS? Is that the deportment we can expect from a *cough* President Obama?


Also arguing against Obama is his manufactured past. There is NOTHING about it that has been honestly presented. Nothing, So why would he change here?

Ray said...

skunksniffer wrote:

"Ray, you programmed turkey, wtf? KOS asked Obama for a birth certificate? KOS? "

No, he asked someone on the Obama team. He said so himself.
It would seem that the Obama team was about ready to release the birth record when Kos contacted them

Ray said...

Rodger wrote:

"Also arguing against Obama is his manufactured past. There is NOTHING about it that has been honestly presented. Nothing, So why would he change here?

The stuff that has been manufactured has been produced by his detractors - not by him or his supporters. This reminds me of the allegation about Al Gore "inventing the internet" It didn't happen

Ray said...

SondraK got out his bg red crayon and scribbled:

"Some of us are avoiding it because it's retarded."

At some point your avoidance techniques will start to unravel - probably half way through this 'Politifact' article that was written on 27th June.
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

Ray said...

Rodger wrote:
[Ray]: "There's nothing abnormal about blocking out an irrelevant certificate number. It's just a bit of privacy."

Pretty lame Ray. What does that mean?. Privacy from what, Ray?

Privacy that prevents would-be forgers from passing-off their handiwork as the real thing. If they don't have the correct number on a forgery they can come unstuck very quickly.

It's also bizarre that Obama, after ignoring media requests would suddenly, without notice, post it for a (excuse me) world class commie crotch sniffer like KOS

It's not bizarre at all. Obama didn't become the Presumptive Nominee until 3rd June, and if he hadn't done that, then very people would have cared where here was born.

Look if you want a decent conspiracy theory - why not try something that's got actual legs - like Australia's pilots, during WWII frantically warning of the Japanese armada heading towards Pearl Harbor "in scorpion formation" (an ancient Japanese war formation).

One third of that same armada bombed the hell out of Darwin, Australia on the way back, but it was kept secret for 60 years. All we ever knew was that "The Post Office was bombed"

Rodger the Real King of France said...

Are you the best they have Ray? I hope so.

Anonymous said...

Looks like the Obama'tards are in full damage control mode, and screaching up a storm.

I posted a copy of Pam's post on my blog ... just to give you 'tards more stuff to worry about.

Don't bother posting a rebuttal there, Ray ... I pay for my bandwidth, so I am far less generous to fools than Rodge is.

Ray said...

Rodger wrote:
"Are you the best they have Ray? I hope so."

Apparently not, because someone just informed me that Obama's parents were married on 2nd Feb, 1961 at Maui, Hawaii - much to the displeasure of the Kenyan grandfather who wrote a scathing letter about it.

This means you've got a window of opportunity of 6 months and 2 days to somehow get Obama's married parents to Kenya for the birth.

Time is running out here -- has anyone contemplated a "3 hour cruise" and birth on Gilligan's Island. That's not in U.S. territory.

Ray

Ray said...

Kristopher frantically wrote:

"Looks like the Obama'tards are in full damage control mode, and screaching up a storm. [....]

Don't bother posting a rebuttal there, Ray ... I pay for my bandwidth, so I am far less generous to fools than Rodge is."


Ah, but Rodger is the real king of France, and from what I've heard you're only a legend in your own lunch time :-)

Rodger the Real King of France said...

Ray - "Someone just told me ...?"

Do you understand that the whole prollem is that nobody, except for his cultists of course, believe anything he says at face value? He changes things daily, and offers unbelievable explanations for past sins. He's a liar, and surrounded by more of the same. Who in hell can afford to believe a guy who speaks through KOS, or Moveon.Org? Sheesh.

Ray said...

Rodger wrote:
"Do you understand that the whole prollem is that nobody, except for his cultists of course, believe anything he says at face value? He changes things daily, and offers unbelievable explanations for past sins. He's a liar, and surrounded by more of the same. Who in hell can afford to believe a guy who speaks through KOS, or Moveon.Org? Sheesh."


The guy's a politician - they're supposed to be like that - that's what being "political" is. The only thing he needs is American citizenship and votes

Anonymous said...

"Ah, but Rodger is the real king of France, and from what I've heard you're only a legend in your own lunch time :-)"
# posted by Blogger Ray


Please return and try again when you have completed your training in the art of Flame.

You have a ways to go.

Ray said...

Kristopher wrote:
"Please return and try again when you have completed your training in the art of Flame."


Flames (or ad hominem arguments) are the last resort of the incompetent.
Here's a JPEG which shows why the supposed forger, Jay, was not using real artwork for his joke.
http://s355.photobucket.com/albums/r478/RayAus/?action=view¤t=SAMPLES.jpg

Post a Comment

Just type your name and post as anonymous if you don't have a Blogger profile.