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Sunday, March 04, 2012

F-22 Raptor Flies

The Insane F-22 Raptor

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There were 195 (8 test and 187 operational) aircraft built before Teh Won stopped funding. I get worried when I see demonstrations likes this. Fear that Obama is showcasing them for sale to Hamas, or Homeland Security. .

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Rodger the Real King of France 3/04/2012 05:53:00 PM 21 Comments

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21 comments:

David said...: A lifetime of watching airplanes fly through the air in a straight line have conditioned us so that when they do things differently it really looks wrong! Like the first time I every saw an AV-8B Harrier stop in mid air, turn around 180 degrees, then start backing up. We are just not conditioned to accept that as normal. I blame the wright brothers.; 3/4/12, 8:11 PM
Darrell said...: For all the tricks the F22 can do at air shows, know this--you're not seeing what the aircraft can REALLY do.; 3/4/12, 9:45 PM
Anonymous said...: WTF do we need the Raptor for? It's now peace through negotiation these days. Peace through strength was done away with when Obama took office. BTW, all is fine anyways according to Chief of Staff, Gen. Martin Dempsey who recently said, "Iran is a rational actor."
olds-mo-william; 3/4/12, 9:50 PM
Anonymous said...: Those maneuvers are completely useless in modern air combat. He is a stationary blip that no missile can miss. Like the Harrier that is also a good airshow performer, its a waste of money with no real world mission.; 3/4/12, 10:00 PM
David said...: I was sitting in a room full of F18 pilots and without thinking too clearly I referred to their aircraft as slow moving targets.

The rest of that afternoon made for a really long day...; 3/4/12, 10:16 PM
Anonymous said...: -----------------
WRT "Those maneuvers are completely useless in modern air combat. He is a stationary blip that no missile can miss. "

In many cases, a maneuver like that can flummox Doppler radars especially if countermeasures are active. The inherently small radar cross section of a stealthy plane, plus zero doppler, plus huge countermeasure blooms makes targeting problematical.

in close in ACM, manuevers such as those shown and the russian Kobra can make the dogfight very interesting.

bullseye

-------------------; 3/4/12, 11:51 PM
Anonymous said...: "Those maneuvers are completely useless in modern air combat. He is a stationary blip that no missile can miss. Like the Harrier that is also a good airshow performer, its a waste of money with no real world mission." -

Oh my... Son, you need more education.

Old Fart Naval Air; 3/5/12, 7:51 AM
Rodger the Real King of France said...: The F-22 has a radar signature of .25 meter. Pretty hard for a missile to lock on that even if it's standing still. Or, am I missing something? Srsly.; 3/5/12, 8:55 AM
Esteve said...: Who needs the F-22. We have already de-funded them and moved on to the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter which is behind schedule, over budget and may never be able to land on a carrier. Of course Obama is pro military, just not the US military.; 3/5/12, 9:09 AM
Anonymous said...: “The only thing more expensive than a first-rate Air Force is … a second-rate Air Force.” - Senate staff member
oy vey ole'; 3/5/12, 10:49 AM
Anonymous said...: Anonymous (third comment from the top) said that we don't need the F-22 because we have peace through negotiation. Anon left out (conveniently?) that we also have peace through bowing and scraping and apologies out the wazoo, given the Komrade Doofus that is presently occupying the White House today.
Scottiebill; 3/5/12, 11:18 AM
Anonymous said...: Scottiebill, I was being sarcastic.
olds-mo-william; 3/5/12, 11:48 AM
Anonymous said...: In all the years of Red Flags, the F22 raptor has been destroyed (according to the pod all carry in Red Flag...) ONE time!

Guess how? A Marine F18 Hornet pilot just happened to spot a Raptor in a turn right under him, so he locked on and successfully shot it down with his 20mm CANNON!!!!

Semper Fi,
Colonel Jerry USMC(ret.fighter pilot); 3/5/12, 11:57 AM
Anonymous said...: From what I've read about this plane, it would have assured us battlefield, air superiority for a generation.

Kommader Jockstrap is a traitor-pure and simple.
MM; 3/5/12, 12:07 PM
Ole Phat Stu said...: "Like the Harrier ... a waste of money with no real world mission."

That'd be the same Harrier that won the Falklands' air superiority squabble?; 3/5/12, 12:27 PM
Skoonj said...: The F-22 takes several times the maintenance of the F-15 or F-18. It was far too expensive to build, and has continuing software and oxygen system problems. It has no real world enemies to be superior to. Better to continue to build aircraft that are far less expensive. It is the second stealth boondogle we built, after the B-2 Hangar Queen. Unfortunately, the F-35 will be the third.; 3/5/12, 2:07 PM
Anonymous said...: "Mach 1 without afterburners, thrust-vectoring super-maneuverability… and a ridiculously lopsided kill record in exercises against the best American fighters."
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/f22-raptor-procurement-events-updated-02908/
marc m; 3/5/12, 2:08 PM
Wabano said...: If it been Russian made, it would have flamed one out and killed 300 'skeez...

In the sixties, the KGB successfully stole(Putin?) one jump jet from Boscombe down. All available NATO planes where scrambled against it...they never managed to shoot it down. It finally landed in a forest clearing out of gaz and the traitor pilot escaped on foot.

But had they sent the Grumman A-4 Skyhawk after it, the aeronautical engineer that told me that story said the Harrier would have gone down...it was inferior in every aspects.

On the other hand, this Argie, Lt Jorge Casco in this picture died 30 minutes later in his A-4, killed by superior missiles fired by...an Harrier!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/A-4C_Tte_casco.jpg; 3/5/12, 3:37 PM
Anonymous said...: No relation, the Cascas are all ground side.

Casca; 3/5/12, 4:53 PM
markshere2 said...: We've entered the age of UAVs tht can out climb, out loiter, out turn, out run and outgun anything thta has a meatsack inside it (bogged down by the attendant O2, pressurization, a/c heat and other systems, cockpit human interface, canopy ejection seat, etc etc etc.)

Add in the limits of the meatsack (GLOC and only 1 set of eyes) and the next generation of big expensive ego transport vehicles will become a very expensive system that gets a lot of highly trained pilots dead.

The bigass logistic trail following The Next! Best! Fighter! will add even more cost to the loss.

UAVs are the wave of the NOW, and if we allow the conventional thinkers to piss away billions of our taxes, then bad on us.; 3/5/12, 5:55 PM
Anonymous said...: Circa 2006-8 Putin was sending flights of Russian bombers and fighters into US Air space over Alaska. NONE of you lower 48 types could be torn away from your double mocha latte's and Soprano's re-runs long enough to pay attention. When we added the F-22 to Alaska's air wing, it STOPPED.
RAK; 3/5/12, 9:54 PM

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F-22 Raptor Flies

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